23 Mar 10
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The idea is to find the solution to a given social problem that involves the least amount of government intrusion - while STILL solving the problem.
Ideally, a problem is the sort of thing that can be addressed by the private sector without any government interference. But many problems persist. Those who don't like big-government solutions need to take action and find small-government solutions early on so that the situation doesn't get so bad that people start making proposals that involve a bigger role for government.
23 Mar 10
Originally posted by MelanerpesSo the lack of local action is the reason for government intrusion? I agree. I believe Jefferson once said that the only way to maintain our freedoms is for people to fight for them. So what have we seen in modern times? We have seen an apathetic populace being dragged around by the nose of two political parties instead of the populace doing the dragging. In fact, most don't even vote. If the populace does not want to be continued to be led down an authoritarian type of system, they need to wake up and take power back for themselves.
The idea is to find the solution to a given social problem that involves the least amount of government intrusion - while STILL solving the problem.
Ideally, a problem is the sort of thing that can be addressed by the private sector without any government interference. But many problems persist. Those who don't like big-government solutions need to ta ...[text shortened]... esn't get so bad that people start making proposals that involve a bigger role for government.
23 Mar 10
Originally posted by whodeyBut the kind of local action you call for consists of little more than gathering people to hold rallies where they spend a couple of hours pretending to fight for their freedoms and then they go home again. That accomplishes nothing.
So the lack of local action is the reason for government intrusion? I agree. I believe Jefferson once said that the only way to maintain our freedoms is for people to fight for them. So what have we seen in modern times? We have seen an apathetic populace being dragged around by the nose of two political parties instead of the populace doing the dragging. ...[text shortened]... down an authoritarian type of system, they need to wake up and take power back for themselves.
The kind of local action I'm calling for consists of gathering people to come up with interesting new ideas for making the system work better, starting with their own communities, and then putting those ideas into action.
If this sort of thing was being done over the last 15 years, maybe the Tea Party Movement would've had something more to offer than pictures of Obama with Charlie Chaplin mustaches.
23 Mar 10
Originally posted by whodeyKill the rich.
I conceed that large corporations take on a government like structure all its own. So you would then identify the private corporation as identical to the limited governmnent the Founding Fathers oppossed? Well then, what of the Goldman Sachs of the world influencing government? Did they not position themselves well in the midst of the credit crisis and is ...[text shortened]... lected government officials, and corporate America, how then can we draw the line between them?
Failing that, enact campaign finance reform. All elections should be publicly financed with outside campaign contributions strictly prohibited. Then government officials will be accountable solely to the and not their financiers.
24 Mar 10
Originally posted by MelanerpesActually the Tea Party movements were organized to get people involved in their communities. Perhaps you did not know this. They have begun their own community organizing movement.
But the kind of local action you call for consists of little more than gathering people to hold rallies where they spend a couple of hours pretending to fight for their freedoms and then they go home again. That accomplishes nothing.
The kind of local action I'm calling for consists of gathering people to come up with interesting new ideas for making t ...[text shortened]... nt would've had something more to offer than pictures of Obama with Charlie Chaplin mustaches.
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24 Mar 10
Originally posted by rwingettEnact finance reform? Ok then, as soon as you go to washington and "take care of things", I'll mosey on in and enact finance reform.
Kill the rich.
Failing that, enact campaign finance reform. All elections should be publicly financed with outside campaign contributions strictly prohibited. Then government officials will be accountable solely to the and not their financiers.
Edit: Just try to be discret about things, will ya?
24 Mar 10
Originally posted by whodeyAnd how well is your approach turning out? At least my approach could work in theory.
Enact finance reform? Ok then, as soon as you go to washington and "take care of things", I'll mosey on in and enact finance reform.
Edit: Just try to be discret about things, will ya?
24 Mar 10
Originally posted by rwingettI just think the whole "killing them all" approach is a bit too "Mao Tse Tungish".
And how well is your approach turning out? At least my approach could work in theory.
"Political power grows out of the barrel of big cannons."
Or the oldy but goodie.
"Communism is not love. Communism is the hammer which we use to crush the enemy"
24 Mar 10
Originally posted by whodeyFinance reform, you knucklehead! That could work. Killing the rich isn't meant to be taken literally. It's just my way of saying that the rich should suffer unspeakable pain.
I just think the whole "killing them all" approach is a bit too "Mao Tse Tungish".
"Political power grows out of the barrel of big cannons."
Or the oldy but goodie.
"Communism is not love. Communism is the hammer which we use to crush the enemy"
24 Mar 10
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Originally posted by rwingettI'm not sure how to go about reducing the powers of the federal government. To reduce ones power and influence is counterintuitive. To achieve this would require force, albiet I'm not advocating violant action nor other unthinkable approaches such as Rahm Emmanuel walking up to legislators in the shower buck naked yelling at them. I am civilized, ya know!!
[b]Finance reform, you knucklehead!
24 Mar 10
Originally posted by whodeyThe thought of keeping the guillotine locked away in storage causes me to weep nostalgic tears. But it is for the best. For even the rich could be put to good use picking asparagus, or something.
Your right, killing them is too good for them. Mao had it all wrong!! 😛
24 Mar 10
Originally posted by whodeyAre you a simple minded oaf? Finance reform does not reduce the power of the federal government. It reduces the power of the corporate elite over the federal government. If elections are publicly financed, then the robber barons can't buy every election.
I'm not sure how to go about reducing the powers of the federal government. To reduce ones power and influence is counterintuitive. To achieve this would require force, albiet I'm not advocating violant action nor other unthinkable approaches such as Rahm Emmanuel walking up to legislators in the shower buck naked yelling at them. I am civilized, ya know!!
24 Mar 10
Originally posted by rwingettSo denying these politicians access to power and wealth does not diminish their own power?
Are you a simple minded oaf? Finance reform does not reduce the power of the federal government. It reduces the power of the corporate elite over the federal government. If elections are publicly financed, then the robber barons can't buy every election.