List of best and worst Silicon valley has produced

@divegeester said
How are computers or computer programs a toxic cesspool wasteland?

I'm not trying to be overly critical here, but we're trying to put together list of things good that have come from Silicon Valley. Computers is what we've come up with? Listing "computers" is like saying cars are made in Detroit. It's true. there are good things about computers but... we can be more specific than that right?

What specifically is good, other than rideshare? Search engine optimization? Yeah, so we can do our "research" about how many members of the Obama Whitehouse were really interstellar reptoids?

They tried to fix dating, it's now a cesspool of sexts.

They tried to fix social relationships, but it's ruined everyone's brains into thinking it's real life.

They tried to fix banking, and caused 2 enormous financial meltdowns and fake money mined from fake realities that's somehow worth trillions.

They tried to fix thinking by developing A.I., and now there's a growing consensus that it will destroy the world.

Steve Jobs famously didn't own an iPad because he recognized how harmful it is. Mark Zuckerburg covers his computer camera with tape because he knows he is being watched. Now we have all the biggest names in tech all saying that A.I. is an uncontrollable monster that will distort reality.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11916917/The-worlds-greatest-minds-going-war-AI.html

@wildgrass said
I'm not trying to be overly critical here, but we're trying to put together list of things good that have come from Silicon Valley. Computers is what we've come up with? Listing "computers" is like saying cars are made in Detroit. It's true. there are good things about computers but... we can be more specific than that right?

What specifically is good, other than ridesha ...[text shortened]... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11916917/The-worlds-greatest-minds-going-war-AI.html

And it all started with that wonderful creation, “The Computer”.😬

@soothfast said
Smartphones, like guns, do have that tiny statistical chance of saving your life someday. But most of the time they just fu​ck everything up.

Are you old enough to remember navigating with Thomas Guides?

@soothfast said
Smartphones, like guns, do have that tiny statistical chance of saving your life someday. But most of the time they just fu​ck everything up.

I’ve posted on this recently it you care to look and answer. It might help, seriously.

Do intelligent non bias research and grow up!

@athousandyoung said
Are you old enough to remember navigating with Thomas Guides?

I still keep an atlas... in my trunk.

It was weird. We used to write down "left turn on Maple, right turn at the gas station". Anyone under 30 never had to do that.

I guess that's .... good? Maybe not. We don't know or care where we're going, just mindlessly typing in the nearest Subway sandwich shop and following the arrows.

@wildgrass said
You're saying that even the only item we have on the "best" list is actually bad?

It's certainly better than taxis.

No I’m saying your example is one of the worst things to come out of silicone valley for the reasons stated IMO
But in the round I think silicone valley is a powerful force for positive advancement.
I’m thinking medicine in general and surgical techniques / outcomes along with computer aided diagnostics, transport navigation etc the list of positives is endless and the negatives all fall at the door of human frailties like our greed and misanthropic tendencies.

@kevcvs57 said
No I’m saying your example is one of the worst things to come out of silicone valley for the reasons stated IMO
But in the round I think silicone valley is a powerful force for positive advancement.
I’m thinking medicine in general and surgical techniques / outcomes along with computer aided diagnostics, transport navigation etc the list of positives is endless and the negatives all fall at the door of human frailties like our greed and misanthropic tendencies.

Theranos?

@wildgrass said
Theranos?

Yeah excellent example of two human frailties, greed and gullibility.

@kevcvs57 said
No I’m saying your example is one of the worst things to come out of silicone valley for the reasons stated IMO
But in the round I think silicone valley is a powerful force for positive advancement.
I’m thinking medicine in general and surgical techniques / outcomes along with computer aided diagnostics, transport navigation etc the list of positives is endless and the negatives all fall at the door of human frailties like our greed and misanthropic tendencies.

Well maybe your opinion of rideshare needs another thread because you're extremely wrong.

What is transport navigation?

@kevcvs57 said
Yeah excellent example of two human frailties, greed and gullibility.

Yeah but over and over and over that's the part that is rewarded in the culture of silicon valley, while anyone proposing ethical solutions to problems gets shown the door. The con artists keep going and going until the lawsuits because, unlike medicine or law or science in which there are ethical codes, they have no incentive to do good things.

Silicon valley produced Theranos, which was all marketing and no substance. By far the most popular, intuitive and culture changing impact on healthcare with computers came out of Madison Wisconsin.

@wildgrass said
It depends what you mean by invented.

According to historical consensus, the first personal computer was invented in Willoughby, Ohio.

How many of these "computers" were made and used for business or by the general public?
Silicon Valley made computers for the masses that anyone could afford and use at home, not to mention the business applications..

@jj-adams said
How many of these "computers" were made and used for business or by the general public?
Silicon Valley made computers for the masses that anyone could afford and use at home, not to mention the business applications..

ok fine, we can add "personal computers" to the list.

Anything more recent innovations that are actually good?

@wildgrass said
ok fine, we can add "personal computers" to the list.

Anything more recent innovations that are actually good?

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You have to admit, though, WG, the invention of the personal computer spawned other high-tech industries
where a billion people have good jobs today that they never would have had. It changed life forever.

Just look at the computer chip industry and see how many devices get those chips installed.

@earl-of-trumps said
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You have to admit, though, WG, the invention of the personal computer spawned other high-tech industries
where a billion people have good jobs today that they never would have had. It changed life forever.

Just look at the computer chip industry and see how many devices get those chips installed.

Job creation creating what?

Best and worst?

@wildgrass said
Well maybe your opinion of rideshare needs another thread because you're extremely wrong.

What is transport navigation?

I’m thinking more about Uber and Deliveroo type apps, surely ride share is just something a lot of people did and do automatically without any specific help from Silicon Valley, I’m ride sharing into the city with a colleague on Friday for our bi annual first aid refresher course, I didn’t use an app I just checked the attendee list and phoned them up.