the problem was that certain member of the coalition government, made election promises that they would not raise university fees and now that they have renegaded on those promises the students are incensed. Sigh, if only it was like America where people like Sarah Palin can pander to moronic republicans with purely emotional appeals deviod of content, the students would have toddled along, thinking that their protests were unpatriotic.
I was slightly peeved that I got back into education just after the bar was raised in two years prior to starting and had to owe more; but to be honest it's not so big a deal...either
1) One doesn't go to university, and make a living on, or close to mimimum wage with little prospect of earning beyond the tier at which students have to pay back their debts or...
2) One gets a good education, and then either fails to find good employment so they like those in (1) fail to earn beyond the payback theshold, or they find good and rewarding employment and give back some (though not a crippling amount) of the coinage that would have been denied to them without going to uni anyway.
Is it fair the next lot of students pay more than us? No of course not; but in spite of this unfairness they still get a good deal by virtue of paying nothing back at all if they're in the same boat when they finish as before they started.
Originally posted by AgergI was slightly peeved that I got back into education just after the bar was raised in two years prior to starting and had to owe more...
I was slightly peeved that I got back into education just after the bar was raised in two years prior to starting and had to owe more; but to be honest it's not so big a deal...either
1) One doesn't go to university, and make a living on, or close to mimimum wage with little prospect of earning beyond the tier at which students have to pay back their debts ...[text shortened]... ying nothing back at all if they're in the same boat when they finish as before they started.
Let me guess: Engrish Composition?
Why shouldn't students pay for their education? Many are only at uni for the "experience" and to get pissed out of their stupid skulls. If an education is worth having it will get you a decent job, if however you choose to read Bulgarian picket fence and soil studies, then I'm afraid evolution has selected you to sweep the roads.
I love it when government officials (and union officials, coming to think of it) come on TV telling us that it's okay to demonstrate, but that violence is bad and will not lead to anything constructive.
Give me an I
Give me an R
Give me a A
Give me a Q
What's that spell?
What's that spell?
HYPOCRITE.
Or it should.
Originally posted by utherpendragonFirstly the violence appears to be organised by "rent-a-mob" and the NUS leaders had nothing to do with it.
Anybody else watching this?
They are covering live on Fox.
Its starting to look a little rough.
The cops just did a Calvary charge into the crowd.
Secondly their grievance seems very just. When they graduate they will be competing with other graduates from previous years and getting similar jobs BUT have to be substantially MORE tax. That is penalising people for the year they were born in!
Thirdly the new system will NOT give an extra tax-burden to those that fail to get higher paid jobs - ie jobs which never required a degree. So it favours those going to Uni for "the experience". That is NOT fair.
Finally: what sort of country wants to penalise the very people who will make it prosperous in the future?
In my opinion:
University places need to be slashed; entrance requirements need to be increased; tertiary education courses should be tailored for the job market; all tertiary education needs to be FREE.
