Massoud

So URSS decided to invade Afganistan 1980.
Didnt go well for the russian because little messers like Massoud prevent them to win.
Then Gorbatchev came and withdraw troops ten years later.

But fights went on, because of the will of power from some of the ethnies there.

Then a bunch of peasants kids (90% of them between 19 and 21 years old) annouce that they will bring peace to the country. They were the Taliban.

Taliban were not fighter, they just took the power by bribing the different army chiefs.
How do 20 yo peasants kids got those millions of dollars is another story (check Pakistan/USA connection for that)

But the people from Afganistan suffer so much because of the action of those "extremist", that they joined Massoud to kick them out.

For years he was the only one to tell the danger of the Taliban.
For years he was the only one to fight for a democratic, tolerant, multi-etnic governed Afganistan

He fought them out until he was killed by suicide bombers pretenting to be cameramen.

Massoud was killed the 9th September 2001.

What is the URSS?

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

Originally posted by Jee
SSSR

As far as I know (books and films of journalist that has been with him around 10 years) he was pretty much on his own.

Actually it's quiet funny when you read it because they were like counting their bullets and sometimes waiting two days...to have a car.

He just had the support of the people there, and the opposition of Pakistan for not being "easy to manupilate" - read bribe.

Just sleeping in blankets with his troops, not interested in money or power (refusing like four time to be the chief of the revolution or of Kabul, just because, "other solutions will cause nobody to die" ) .

He's a disgrace in the sense of military action, because he put peace and "not killing people" before milirary/glory success.

And he was against letting the americans building the pipeline through his country.

It's the only voice that I know who wnted a country where all the ethnies were represented.

Us sent 1000 stingers during the USSR/Afganistan war. For some reason, Pakistan almost kept them all.

Massoud had ten of them.

The rest went to the Pakistan and their taliban friend (very bribeable and very keen to let any pipeline go through).

Then when the american came back to get the stingers back, they had to pay around 1 millions $ each.

What's funny is how boyscouts like Massoud and his troop just kicked the russian's ass, just by believeing that their cause was a good one.

Well this thread I suppose just to point out that maybe things might have been very different now if somebody had helped/listened to him.

This thread because nobody will talk or write about him in all the fuss around the 9/11 aniversary.

This thread as well to wonder if it's just coincidental that he was killed on the 9th September 2001.

Originally posted by Jee
Well this thread I suppose just to point out that maybe things might have been very different now if somebody had help/listen to him.

This thread because nobody will talk or write about him in all the fuss around the 9/11 aniversary.

This thread as well to wonder if it's just coincidental that he was killed on the 9th September 2001.

Wont say that they were puppets, but they were surely heavily financed and trained by US.

Well the country that was uselessy bombed after 9/11 was Afganistan, because of the bad taliban, when the same country was ignore for trying to get rid of them by Massoud.

Nothing against Pakistan, where those Taliban originaly come from and who supported them against Massoud.

It's sad that a man of peace like Massoud was unheard.

"We should recognize that American tax dollars helped to create the very Taliban government that now wants to destroy us. In the late 1970s and early 80s, the CIA was very involved in the training and funding of various fundamentalist Islamic groups in Afghanistan, some of which later became today's brutal Taliban government. In fact, the U.S. government admits to giving the groups at least 6 billion dollars in military aid and weaponry, a staggering sum that would be even larger in today's dollars."

from http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2001/tst110501.htm

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
What are you saying--the Taliban were US puppets? What is the connection with 9/11?

Originally posted by howardgee
Are you the only person thick enough to not realise that the CIA trained Bin Laden and the Taliban against the Russians in the 1980's?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
It's called drawing someone into conversation

Originally posted by Jee
Any other point of you on the Massoud subject ?

ps: dont give me the "he way the french's favourite one", those french sold more weapon to Pakistan and USSR that I can possibly count

Was a great story as well when in 1998 I think, finally US tv sent this famous journalist to interviewed Massoud, then cancelled everything when they realised he didn't speak english.

"American viewers don't like to read subtitles".

paragraph below is cross-posted from the Robert Pape thread; the "mujahedeen hero" is Massoud. it does not seem to be a coincidence that he was killed on Sept. 9; bin Laden was probably anticipating the backlash and covering his flank. the two suicide bombers met with bin Laden before travelling to visit Massoud.

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here is an interesting story about two al-Qaeda Arabs ("North African" who were sent by OBL to Afghanistan to kill a "mujahedeen hero" on Sept 9, 2001, with a bomb in a videocamera, posing as journalists.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060910/ap_on_re_as/afghan_killing_massood;_ylt=AlgsEHU30Og0.VAInydMDqOs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM-

what is the breakdown of nationalities of the 71 al-Qaeda suicide bombers?