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19 Apr 21
19 Apr 21
@no1marauder saidThe State!!!!! creepy
BLM is a non-violent organization who's main policy goal is to stop having agents of the State murder civilians.
Odd a supposed "libertarian" doesn't support that goal.
@vivify saidInstead of attacking the person making the argument address the argument. Mobilizing citizens to storm the streets is almost a clone of Trump encouraging people to storm the Capital. Both behaviors are reprehensible and should be condemned. But if you have a need to advocate violence, let's direct it against the government and not on the streets of our country where it effects our ordinary citizens and our businesses.
Before any post of yours can be taken seriously, we have to address your hypocrisy. You keep pretending that previous threads don't exist pointing this out and you just hop to the next one.
You and other conservatives just recently claimed Trump wasn't being racist by generalizing Mexicans as rapists, you all went on to generalize Mexican immigrants as rapists.
You ...[text shortened]... lso proved yourselves as racist.
You are in no position to criticize people like Maxine Waters.
@quackquack saidThere is no comparison.
Instead of attacking the person making the argument address the argument. Mobilizing citizens to storm the streets is almost a clone of Trump encouraging people to storm the Capital. Both behaviors are reprehensible and should be condemned. But if you have a need to advocate violence, let's direct it against the government and not on the streets of our country where it effects our ordinary citizens and our businesses.
On January 6th, Trump and the other speakers wanted the crowd to assault the Capitol in order to prevent the People's elected representatives from finalizing the result of the 2020 Presidential election. This required violent action by the mob and was solely intended to benefit the defeated incumbent, who made dire predictions of what would happen if it wasn't done.
By contrast, the demonstrators in Minnesota and other places are protesting police violence against the People, the reduction of which would benefit all.
Waters did not call for or suggest any violent or illegal acts were necessary. Being "confrontational" to agents of the State to support progressive change was what a man who has a national holiday in January named after him spent his whole adult life doing.
19 Apr 21
@no1marauder saidMarx has a holiday after him? You must be in hog heaven Marauder.
There is no comparison.
On January 6th, Trump and the other speakers wanted the crowd to assault the Capitol in order to prevent the People's elected representatives from finalizing the result of the 2020 Presidential election. This required violent action by the mob and was solely intended to benefit the defeated incumbent, who made dire predictions of what would happ ...[text shortened]... s what a man who has a national holiday in January named after him spent his whole adult life doing.
A Curious issue, I am sure you can enlighten us. All of the libs here seem to have decided Chauvin is guilty. Without having sat in the jury box, absorbing all the facts. How is it POSSIBLE to arrive at that conclusion when most of the libs here are playing frisby and meeting to discuss how to game the government and the system?
It is hard for me to give much weight to the opinions of anyone here as they opine as to his guilt. It would be like just polling anyone and everyone as to their vote. I mean, why have a jury seated to hear all the facts, when libs here think they know all the facts???
My my, I just dont know which way to turn. I wonder what Sonhouse thinks? And Andy?
@no1marauder saidMaxine Waters is trying to influence a trial by threatening consequence. It is difficult to dispute that there is expected violence as business are boarding up their establishments because the troops she hopes to mobilize aren't expected to be any more peaceful then the criminals who stormed the Capital.
There is no comparison.
On January 6th, Trump and the other speakers wanted the crowd to assault the Capitol in order to prevent the People's elected representatives from finalizing the result of the 2020 Presidential election. This required violent action by the mob and was solely intended to benefit the defeated incumbent, who made dire predictions of what would happ ...[text shortened]... s what a man who has a national holiday in January named after him spent his whole adult life doing.
If the protesters were really peaceful we wouldn't need curfews or buildings boarded up. Perhaps the president (or you) should speak out against this feared domestic terrorism but both are willing to look the other way if it supports your cause.
@quackquack saidThe almost constant right wing attempts to tar peaceful protestors with the actions of others, almost always done long after the actual protests, continues.
Maxine Waters is trying to influence a trial by threatening consequence. It is difficult to dispute that there is expected violence as business are boarding up their establishments because the troops she hopes to mobilize aren't expected to be any more peaceful then the criminals who stormed the Capital.
If the protesters were really peaceful we wouldn't need curfews o ...[text shortened]... this feared domestic terrorism but both are willing to look the other way if it supports your cause.
Waters and the protestors have done nothing to encourage violence as you well know.
Repressive measures undertaken by the State, like curfews and the unconstitutional tactics used against journalists in Minnesota, are not justified just because you and other right wingers don't like the political content of the demonstrators' message.
19 Apr 21
@shallow-blue saidAS expected, another libtard thinks I am a Republican
As expected, a Republican knows nothing about science.
Next thing you know, they'll pretend it was the "libtards" who wanted pi to equal 3.
19 Apr 21
@no1marauder -
BLM is a non-violent organization who's main policy goal is to stop having agents of the State murder civilians.
LOL you are a freekin PANIC, man. How many ways is this wrong?
Your so-called NON-violent BLM people have MURDER individuals in the CHAZ zone,
and BLM in cites all over America have been a property destroying SUPER Spreader mob.
Who the BLEEP are you kidding.
19 Apr 21
@quackquack -
Maxine Waters is trying to influence a trial by threatening consequence.
Correct. Not that that matters to the lawyer you are speaking to.
@no1marauder saidThe protestors were violent forcing curfews to be implemented. They are expecting more violence forcing businesses to already be boarded up. Maxine Waters words are likely to encourage more damage to people and property and therefore are irresponsible.
The almost constant right wing attempts to tar peaceful protestors with the actions of others, almost always done long after the actual protests, continues.
Waters and the protestors have done nothing to encourage violence as you well know.
Repressive measures undertaken by the State, like curfews and the unconstitutional tactics used against journalists in Minnesot ...[text shortened]... because you and other right wingers don't like the political content of the demonstrators' message.
https://www.startribune.com/jury-now-has-derek-chauvin-case-for-deliberations-in-killing-of-george-floyd/600047627/
"I'll give you that Congresswoman Waters may have given you something on appeal that may result on this whole trial being overturned," Hennepin County District Judge Peter Cahill said, denying the motion while acknowledging that Nelson's concerns were legitimate.
"This goes back to what I've been saying from the beginning," the judge said. "I wish elected officials would stop talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and to the judicial branch and our function.
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But see... Maxine didn't do nuttin' wrong... Nooooooooooooooooooooooo.
She's a dEmOcRaT, she loves America and peoples, and trees... 🙄 🙄
@earl-of-trumps saidWhen protestors plan to engage in behavior that is likely to lead to injury or person and property, it is difficult to believe that the protestors goal is to protest the loss of a life.
@quackquack -
Maxine Waters is trying to influence a trial by threatening consequence.
Correct. Not that that matters to the lawyer you are speaking to.
19 Apr 21
@no1marauder saidYou leftists are changing the definition of a LOT of words.....so, when you say above that Waters does not encourage violence, we conservative Save-America types have to pause for a moment, as what you are saying does not make sense,,,,,,that is, under the way our mom and dad used to define encourage violence . What are you people really up to, anywaY/ You will win in the end, as i have always said, but what is your goal if you have to explain it today???
The almost constant right wing attempts to tar peaceful protestors with the actions of others, almost always done long after the actual protests, continues.
Waters and the protestors have done nothing to encourage violence as you well know.
Repressive measures undertaken by the State, like curfews and the unconstitutional tactics used against journalists in Minnesot ...[text shortened]... because you and other right wingers don't like the political content of the demonstrators' message.
19 Apr 21
@quackquack saidThey have a bigger goal, collateral damage is not relevant. I did ask Marauder what they really want in the end, let us see what he says (or doesn't say). I am worried they will start wearing uniforms, any thought on that? Marauder, what size do you wear??
When protestors plan to engage in behavior that is likely to lead to injury or person and property, it is difficult to believe that the protestors goal is to protest the loss of a life.