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Originally posted by Black Lung
And you do? Enlighten me then...
ok first tell me what your talking about then check the debate title, then read everything thats been said.

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Originally posted by Smider
ok first tell me what your talking about then check the debate title, then read everything thats been said.
When Mr Ritter states "Illegal immigrants have no rights in the country they invade." I ask him if he is referring to white colonial immigrants. If you don't understand the subtlies of my statement I'm not going to waste my time explaining them to you.

Now you can enlighten me..

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Originally posted by Redmike
What about armies which illegaly invade countries?
No such thing as a "legal" invasion.

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Originally posted by Black Lung
When Mr Ritter states "Illegal immigrants have no rights in the country they invade." I ask him if he is referring to white colonial immigrants. If you don't understand the subtlies of my statement I'm not going to waste my time explaining them to you.

Now you can enlighten me..
Hmmm...I'm pretty sure we took the America's fair & square. It's not my fault that they were unable to fend off our take-over. We won! To the victors goes the spoil's!

If the natives choose not keep up, they lose.

Kingdoms & empires come and go. Get over yourself, wipe the tears off your face, and move on.

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Originally posted by Black Lung
When Mr Ritter states "Illegal immigrants have no rights in the country they invade." I ask him if he is referring to white colonial immigrants. If you don't understand the subtlies of my statement I'm not going to waste my time explaining them to you.

Now you can enlighten me..
White colonialists didn't have any rights. You might recall that from your history classes.

By the way, who's the shemale with gun in your avatar?

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Originally posted by Merk
White colonialists didn't have any rights. You might recall that from your history classes.

By the way, who's the shemale with gun in your avatar?
Good point Merk, we created the nation and the government in (and under) which we have rights.

Oh, and that's James Bon,d buddy. ;-)

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Originally posted by CheckMate AAA
Good point Merk, we created the nation and the government in (and under) which we have rights.

Oh, and that's James Bon,d buddy. ;-)
That's James Bond!? Did they botch a sex change or something!?

And aren't 007's suppose to have cool guns?

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Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)

Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)

Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)

The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)

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Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

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Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)

Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

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Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121).

Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

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Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

"A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)

Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)

Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)

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Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

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Hmmm...maybe black lung should focus on Mexico's policies.

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Originally posted by Dace Ace
Hmmm...maybe black lung should focus on Mexico's policies.
They're not white, so he won't.

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