26 Jun 11
Originally posted by VoidSpiritThen I guess a drug abuser will not mind if you take his "resources" from him.
prostitution is not property. prostitutes may or may not be property. they may or may not be employees in a capitalist economy. if they have a choice to leave, they are not property. if they are slaves and cannot leave, then they are property. of course one can argue that all employees are also slaves and ergo property of either their employer ...[text shortened]... "In addition, why are drugs a "resource" but land is not?"
drugs and land are resources.
As for prostitution, I guess it makes the most sense for socialists. After all, they want to use people as resources that everyone has access to. Maybe such lifestyles will become the norm in socialist countries one day.
26 Jun 11
Originally posted by whodeyWhere do you stand on the legalization of drugs and prostitution?
Then I guess a drug abuser will not mind if you take his "resources" from him.
As for prostitution, I guess it makes the most sense for socialists. After all, they want to use people as resources that everyone has access to. Maybe such lifestyles will become the norm in socialist countries one day.
26 Jun 11
Originally posted by KazetNagorraI've been to the Red Light district in Amsterdam. Many girls there look to be under age and from I have read are often driven there from other regions so they can be pimped. Outside you sometimes see guys outside trying to intice on lookers to go "have a good time".
An intriguing comment. What do you know about places where prostitution is legal, whodey?
One girl in one of the windows who looked under age was actually crying. Just heart breaking.
26 Jun 11
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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperIllegal drugs are comparable to smoking and alcohol abuse. On the one hand, its definately "bad" for you, but on the other hand, you see the state trying to make a buck off such vices via state run liquor stores. In fact, throw gambling into the mix as well. The state knows that people will suffer and die from such vices, yet they have no problem not only legalizing it, they make money off it and promote it as well. I find the whole affair simply disgusting and sickening.
Where do you stand on the legalization of drugs and prostitution?
As for criminilizing such behavoir, however, that is a different thing altogether. I would like to see the state take a moral stand against such things as gambling and illegal drugs, but at the same time not criminalize it. Of course, with $$$$ ruling the world this simply will not happen.
As for prostitution, this is a sex for money and from what I have seen lead to victims being trapped in the lifestlye whether it be legal or illegal. Personally, I would like the state to zero in on the pimps more than the prostitutes. Then you have pornography which often involves sexual acts for $$$$. Why is this legal again in a country where prostitution is illegal? Oh, that's right, porn is a billion dollar industry. Again, just follow the $$$$.
26 Jun 11
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Originally posted by whodeyYou don't sound the least bit libertarian. Nor do you seem very strong at all on freedom of the individual and personal responsibility.
Illegal drugs are comparable to smoking and alcohol abuse. On the one hand, its definately "bad" for you, but on the other hand, you see the state trying to make a buck off such vices via state run liquor stores. In fact, throw gambling into the mix as well. The state knows that people will suffer and die from such vices, yet they have no problem not only ...[text shortened]... illegal? Oh, that's right, porn is a billion dollar industry. Again, just follow the $$$$.
26 Jun 11
Originally posted by whodeyThere is a lot of illegal prostitution in the Amsterdam Red Light District, whodey. Eastern European girls. Latin American girls. Smuggled into the country, often with false promises. The legalization of prostitution was an attempt to put a halt to women trafficking and abuse - and it has been a mild success, but the world of prostitution remains one rife with abuse, money laundering, etc. Having said that, there are also plenty of prostitutes who have employers, not pimps. They pay taxes. If they lose their job, they can get unemployment benefits. Their rights can be protected because it's out in the open. They can quit, if they want to. This is the intention and purpose of legalized prostitution. It's a job as legitimate as any.
I've been to the Red Light district in Amsterdam. Many girls there look to be under age and from I have read are often driven there from other regions so they can be pimped. Outside you sometimes see guys outside trying to intice on lookers to go "have a good time".
One girl in one of the windows who looked under age was actually crying. Just heart breaking.
26 Jun 11
Originally posted by whodeyHoes are not property. I've known many in my lifetime and have dabbled in pimping.
Why not just decriminilize property and have the governmet regulate it.....hey!! That's what going on now.
Then again, isn't a prostitute property? Aren't drugs property?
This could start a backlash on the left ya know.
26 Jun 11
Originally posted by whodeyyou're confusing socialism with countries with mixed economies. there are no socialist countries currently in existence.
Then I guess a drug abuser will not mind if you take his "resources" from him.
As for prostitution, I guess it makes the most sense for socialists. After all, they want to use people as resources that everyone has access to. Maybe such lifestyles will become the norm in socialist countries one day.
26 Jun 11
Originally posted by whodeythe entire drug trade is a symptom of the failure of capitalism. people are forced or tricked into becoming 'infected' so that gangs or states may profit from them. once capitalism is eliminated and the means of production is firmly in the hands of the people where it belongs, drug abuse will vanish within a generation.
Then I guess a drug abuser will not mind if you take his "resources" from him.
As for prostitution, I guess it makes the most sense for socialists. After all, they want to use people as resources that everyone has access to. Maybe such lifestyles will become the norm in socialist countries one day.
26 Jun 11
Originally posted by VoidSpiritI'm speechless.
the entire drug trade is a symptom of the failure of capitalism. people are forced or tricked into becoming 'infected' so that gangs or states may profit from them. once capitalism is eliminated and the means of production is firmly in the hands of the people where it belongs, drug abuse will vanish within a generation.
26 Jun 11
Originally posted by VoidSpiritLOL! Do you actually believe this sort of stuff?
the entire drug trade is a symptom of the failure of capitalism. people are forced or tricked into becoming 'infected' so that gangs or states may profit from them. once capitalism is eliminated and the means of production is firmly in the hands of the people where it belongs, drug abuse will vanish within a generation.