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08 Feb 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungit wouldn't be worth much if it was full of bomb craters.
Yeah but it's some of the most valuable real estate on the planet.
and what percent of it is valuable?!?? as opposed to dustbin?!?
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3406875,00.html
Sever Plocker
Real-estate prices a myth
Can it be that apartment prices in Tel Aviv are higher than in San Francisco?
Published: 06.01.07, 07:55 / Israel Opinion
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Tel Aviv more expensive than San Francisco?
You want more examples? Last week we were told about yet another super-upscale building, with apartments there expected to cost as much as who-knows-how-many millions of dollars. Where? At the foot of Rothschild Boulevard in Tel Aviv – a location that is inconvenient and inaccessible, lacking public transportation, and in close proximity to the crumbling Shalom Tower, jammed Herzl Street, and noisy Carmel Market.
When Yitzhak Tshuva's Elad Group sold the most upscale penthouse at the renovated Plaza Hotel for $50 million, this was not surprising: The Plaza will be the most desired and snobbish address in the world's richest city. Yet paying $10 million for a penthouse near the Carmel Market? In the land of wars and terrorism?
The Pacific Heights neighborhood is one of the most sought-after locations in a particularly expensive real-estate town – San Francisco, California. At this time, there is a huge two-floor penthouse for sale there, with amazing 360-degree views of the ocean and Golden Gate Bridge, including stunning furnishing, a library, a giant balcony, and an entertainment room. The asking price: Only about $5 million.
Yet you mean to tell me the same amount is required to get a more modest penthouse near the train station and Halacha intersection in Tel Aviv? In Israel, a country facing war? Does anyone believe such real-estate prices?
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08 Feb 10
Originally posted by zeebleboti like his opener:
it wouldn't be worth much if it was full of bomb craters.
and what percent of it is valuable?!?? as opposed to dustbin?!?
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3406875,00.html
Sever Plocker
Real-estate prices a myth
Can it be that apartment prices in Tel Aviv are higher than in San Francisco?
Published: 06.01.07, 07:55 / ...[text shortened]... el Aviv? In Israel, a country facing war? Does anyone believe such real-estate prices?
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When I hear and read about building contractors' stories regarding the prices they get for their apartments in what has become known here as "upscale residential towers", I recall the advice that Yankele gave Moishele when the latter complained about some problem with his sexual performance.
"Why do you think your performance isn't that good?" Yankaee wondered. "Because my friends and acquaintances say they can satisfy their
wives three or four times per night, while I barely do it once a week," Moishele replied. "Well then, there's no problem," Yankele said. "You should say the same thing."
So our contractors are spinning yarns. They talk about selling penthouses for millions of dollars in the high-rises they built and are still building at Tel Aviv's noisiest intersections, in terrible locations. They keep on talking and praising, yet it's still incomprehensible.
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08 Feb 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungApparently facts don't count in this discussion. Isn't Arab fundimentalism the real problem in the region and instead of having 42 billion forums criticixing Israel shouldn't we discuss how Iran is the real threat in the region?
Immediately after Israel declared independence, it was invaded by five nearby countries!
08 Feb 10
Originally posted by quackquackI would think the fundamentalism is the problem in the area, doesn't matter what religion.
Apparently facts don't count in this discussion. Isn't Arab fundimentalism the real problem in the region and instead of having 42 billion forums criticixing Israel shouldn't we discuss how Iran is the real threat in the region?
This region without fundamentalism would be a friendly region.
Fundamentalism is always bad.
08 Feb 10
Originally posted by quackquackA "threat" in what sense? And a "threat" to whom?
Apparently facts don't count in this discussion. Isn't Arab fundimentalism the real problem in the region and instead of having 42 billion forums criticixing Israel shouldn't we discuss how Iran is the real threat in the region?
10 Feb 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungIsrael rejected the 1947 partition initially. However, in early 1948, Israel reached an agreement with Jordan wherein Jordan would take the partitioned West Bank. When Israel was declared, Jordan moved in to take the spoils, but they were driven back when the Zionists decided to go beyond the partition borders. Syria acted to support Jordan, as it was under a pro-Jordan government until a 1949 coup. Egypt had no interest in attacking Israel, and was merely trying to take Gaza, but they were involved in fighting for similar reasons. Anything I missed?
You may ask, but I don't have any idea how to answer or what point you're trying to hint at. Why don't you just say it straight out? You tell me. What were those circumstances that are so relevant?
10 Feb 10
Originally posted by scherzoYou clearly know more about this than I do. I'll read up on it. Thank you for clarifying your point.
Israel rejected the 1947 partition initially. However, in early 1948, Israel reached an agreement with Jordan wherein Jordan would take the partitioned West Bank. When Israel was declared, Jordan moved in to take the spoils, but they were driven back when the Zionists decided to go beyond the partition borders. Syria acted to support Jordan, as it was under ...[text shortened]... trying to take Gaza, but they were involved in fighting for similar reasons. Anything I missed?