11 Dec 07
Barry Walters, an obstetrics professor with the government-funded University of Western Australia proposes that parents who have more than two children should be charged a lifelong climate change tax to offset the effect of their extra greenhouse gas. I propose that those who want to thin the human population start with themselves. Discuss.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hdHCdZZ8MLEj4aBjDsvAsEp5bStA
11 Dec 07
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterDespite being intelligent (I'm assuming) you tend to argue at an 8th grade level.
I think you should go second.
Getting rid of me isn't going to solve your problem of being consistently trounced by any educated adult.
Did you just give up on math or is it genetic?
11 Dec 07
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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterThere are a bunch of "ideas" that get pushed forward even though they have no chance of actually happening. The idea is to get people to think about the issue so that maybe they'll act a little different than they currently are.
Barry Walters, an obstetrics professor with the government-funded University of Western Australia proposes that parents who have more than two children should be charged a lifelong climate change tax to offset the effect of their extra greenhouse gas. I propose that those who want to thin the human population start with themselves. Discuss.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hdHCdZZ8MLEj4aBjDsvAsEp5bStA
There will be no lifetime tax.
My provincial government right now is discussing a ban on smoking in cars when children are in the car. We all know it'll never happen but the idea is to get people who do smoke with their kids in the car to stop and think about whether or not it's the right thing to do. Sometimes you have to shock people with crazy ideas in order for them to pay attention.
11 Dec 07
Originally posted by mdhallWe also wear nicer clothes, eat better, have longer lives and retire to Florida. What's your point?
Given your inability to comprehend simple mathematical realities, there's not much discussion available.
In 2000 years we have grown from 300 million to 6 billion (in 1999).
Can you calculate that growth rate?
11 Dec 07
Originally posted by mdhallWhat's the growth rate of orange trees in the same time frame?
Given your inability to comprehend simple mathematical realities, there's not much discussion available.
In 2000 years we have grown from 300 million to 6 billion (in 1999).
Can you calculate that growth rate?
12 Dec 07
Originally posted by mdhallWe've seen this on a smaller scale with various Pacific islands in the past. They build a prosperous civilization, their population grows, they exhaust the resources of their island, and then their population would crash dramatically. Then the survivors would flee to different islands.
Given your inability to comprehend simple mathematical realities, there's not much discussion available.
In 2000 years we have grown from 300 million to 6 billion (in 1999).
Can you calculate that growth rate?
We're seeing that happen now on a planetwide scale. Except we have no other planets to flee to.
12 Dec 07
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Originally posted by rwingettReally, where are we seeing Americans flee to? Russias and Europes populations are certainly not experienceing explosive growth? The major growth areas seems to be fairly limited.
We've seen this on a smaller scale with various Pacific islands in the past. They build a prosperous civilization, their population grows, they exhaust the resources of their island, and then their population would crash dramatically. Then the survivors would flee to different islands.
We're seeing that happen now on a planetwide scale. Except we have no other planets to flee to.
Is America out of resources? Africa? Asia?
I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine we grow plenty of food and plenty of trees.
12 Dec 07
Originally posted by MerkI thought you suburbanite sheep had a leash law.
Really, where are we seeing Americans flee to? Russias and Europes populations are certainly not experienceing explosive growth? The major growth areas seems to be fairly limited.
Is America out of resources? Africa? Asia?
I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine we grow plenty of food and plenty of trees.
Does your wife/mom know you're arguing online again?
Seriously though, your head-in-the-sand style of posting makes me want to vomit all over your chem-lawn mindset.
"Everything looks great on my upper-middle-class street, and since that's all I ever see, then I am sure the rest of the world is fine too".
You're a dolt if you cannot put two and two together and see that Humanity is facing a serious resource crunch in the near future and it's got absolutely jack to do with fixation on the United States joke of a bipartisan system.
12 Dec 07
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Originally posted by mdhallThey're like monkeys putting their hands into a narrow bottle filled with nuts. Seeing hunters coming and finding the bottle is actually fixed to the ground, their greed renders them incapable of escaping - rather than opening their hands and making their getaway, they instead get caught ... screeching in fear yet still greedily clutching that which lead to their capture/death.
I thought you suburbanite sheep had a leash law.
Does your wife/mom know you're arguing online again?
Seriously though, your head-in-the-sand style of posting makes me want to vomit all over your chem-lawn mindset.
"Everything looks great on my upper-middle-class street, and since that's all I ever see, then I am sure the rest of the world is fine too" got absolutely jack to do with fixation on the United States joke of a bipartisan system.
In the not too distant future, this insatiable greed that too many people unfortunately exhibit is going to lead to all sorts of problems ...
12 Dec 07
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterSurely the tax should only last as long as you have more than two children. If one of the three gets hit by a bus, do you have to continue to pay?
Barry Walters, an obstetrics professor with the government-funded University of Western Australia proposes that parents who have more than two children should be charged a lifelong climate change tax to offset the effect of their extra greenhouse gas. I propose that those who want to thin the human population start with themselves. Discuss.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hdHCdZZ8MLEj4aBjDsvAsEp5bStA
12 Dec 07
Originally posted by rwingettIf you honestly think that the earth is anywhere near reaching its maximum sustainable human population then you haven't traveled very much, probably haven't looked at an atlas or even watched tv too much. There are vast areas of the earths land surface still un-cultivated and don't forget that the sea covers more surface than land. My home country of Zambia could quite comfortably hold 20 times its current population even with current farming methods. If the methods used in the US were imported that figure would rise significantly.
We've seen this on a smaller scale with various Pacific islands in the past. They build a prosperous civilization, their population grows, they exhaust the resources of their island, and then their population would crash dramatically. Then the survivors would flee to different islands.
We're seeing that happen now on a planetwide scale. Except we have no other planets to flee to.