Morson: Suicide of the Liberals

@Philokalia

In other words, Phil, we should hold onto our ass.

We all knew why the libs/progs wan a gun grab anyway :-)

@philokalia said
Two different parties are actually addressed in Morson's essay:

- Liberals (which this quote is about, who tended to carry water for )
- Radicals

@philokalia said
What would be some examples of the excesses and tyrannical behavior of the current Tsar at that time or his predecessor?

What does it mean that Tsar Nicholas II was ready to accept all of the demands of the liberals, and eventually abdicated..?

Honestly, I am curious to know more about the topic and I would love to have more rounded out understanding. I believe I can get that from your contributions to the thread.

@earl-of-trumps said
Yes.

Look at the liberal mayors of Portland and Seattle. they coddle the domestic terrorists.

And look at the liberals in here refer to the domestic terrorists as "Peaceful Protesters"

@kevcvs57 said
Seriously your a czarist ?😂😂 oh yeah of course the orthodox thing.
If you think there is an onus on me to prove that the Russian czarist system was one of the cruelest most despicable autocratic regimes ever to blight human existence then you are sadly mistaken.
It’s a known known and your a liar for denying it.
Right wing fascism is the only threat to western democracy today and that’s also a known known.

@dendron said
while Trump has accomplished one of the greatest feats in history, having the Abraham accord, the declaration of peace signed today,

@earl-of-trumps said
@Philokalia

In other words, Phil, we should hold onto our ass.

We all knew why the libs/progs wan a gun grab anyway :-)

@kevcvs57 said
Seriously your a czarist ?😂😂 oh yeah of course the orthodox thing.
If you think there is an onus on me to prove that the Russian czarist system was one of the cruelest most despicable autocratic regimes ever to blight human existence then you are sadly mistaken.
It’s a known known and your a liar for denying it.
Right wing fascism is the only threat to western democracy today and that’s also a known known.

@philokalia said
I would not say that I am a Tsarist. I am not a Russian and this context is foreign to me.

I was honestly curious if you could provide us some evidence that the Tsar was akin to the murderous Bolsheviks who took his place.

The thing is, y ou can't, because the Communists were the worst butchers of the 20th century.

@kevcvs57 said
It’s a known known as I’ve said. you’ll be wanting me to prove the existence of Nazi death camps and the Khmer Rouge death farms next.
No you’ve firmly nailed your colours to the crypto fascist mast.
I repeat the only threat to western democracy is fascism and Trump is their current poster boy of convenience.

@philokalia said
OK, I am forced to conclude that you do not know much at all about the state of Russia in the early 20th and late 19th century, and cannot offer us much input as to how this society was.

You have no real argument as to why the Bolsheviks were not uniquely bad for Russia.

Maybe yuo are even a Communist sympathizer. Of course, that is your right. But, communism is bad, nnnkay?

I’ll give you a clue though violent regimes get overthrown by violent revolutions.

@kevcvs57 said
I’ll give you a clue though violent regimes get overthrown by violent revolutions.

@philokalia said
How was it exceptionally violent for that time?

@wolfgang59 said
I like the way you slip in "for that time"!

Didn't give the same caveat for the Bolsheviks though ...