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@mott-the-hoople said
He signs off on FISA applications verifying accuracy and truthfulness. He is called director for a reason.
No, he doesn't:

" In the case of FISA applications for FBI investigations, the application is usually certified by the FBI Director or Deputy Director. 134 The written certification must include the following:

• A statement that the certifying official deems the information sought to be "foreign intelligence information;"
• A statement that a "significant purpose" of the electronic surveillance or physical searches is to obtain foreign intelligence information;
• A statement that such information cannot reasonably be obtained by normal investigative techniques;
• A designation of the type of foreign intelligence information being sought (e.g., information concerning a U.S. person that is necessary to the ability of the United States to protect against clandestine intelligence activities by an intelligence service or network of a foreign power or by an agent of a foreign power).
• A "statement of the basis" for the certification that the information sought is the type of foreign intelligence designated and that it cannot reasonably be obtained by normal investigative means. 135 "

Horowitz Report, pp. 36-7

The Report did not implicate Comey in the failures to include exculpatory evidence in any of the applications (Comey had already been fired before the third renewal):

"Moreover, we identified instances in which senior FBI
officials were not provided with complete information. For example, although we found that Corney and McCabe had been informed that the FBI had interviewed Steele's Primary Sub-source, the 2-page intelligence memorandum that they were
sent highlighting aspects of the Primary Sub-source's account failed to advise them of inconsistencies between Steele's reporting and the Primary Sub-source on key
allegations. Thus, while we believe the opportunities for learning investigative details were greater for FBI leadership than for Department leadership, we were unable to conclusively determine whether FBI leadership was provided with
sufficient information, or sufficiently probed the investigative team, to enable them to effectively assess the evidence as the case progressed. "

p. 373

So the Comey bashing being done by right wingers does not reflect this Report's conclusions.

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@averagejoe1 said
You have just unearthed his innocence!!!!! No1, your liberal logic is showing, altho I think logic is the wrong word. Try, "yes, Comey i really a bad dude, with an agenda". The tried and (un)true....Get rid of Trump, any way we can. Tiresome stuff, Now, esp when your statements are baseless. Come over to where you belong, to our side!!!!

What is wrong with your man Schiff's face...and Nadler's. Brrrrrr
Why did you start a thread about a Report when it is painfully obvious that you haven't read a word of it?

It's here; https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

Anyone who wants to comment on it should at least read the Executive Summary.

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@no1marauder said
No, he doesn't:

" In the case of FISA applications for FBI investigations, the application is usually certified by the FBI Director or Deputy Director. 134 The written certification must include the following:

• A statement that the certifying official deems the information sought to be "foreign intelligence information;"
• A statement that a "significant purpose" ...[text shortened]... 373

So the Comey bashing being done by right wingers does not reflect this Report's conclusions.
comey signed THREE of the FISA applications...quit lying.

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@no1marauder said
No, he doesn't:

" In the case of FISA applications for FBI investigations, the application is usually certified by the FBI Director or Deputy Director. 134 The written certification must include the following:

• A statement that the certifying official deems the information sought to be "foreign intelligence information;"
• A statement that a "significant purpose" ...[text shortened]... 373

So the Comey bashing being done by right wingers does not reflect this Report's conclusions.
What was he saying he was wrong, 17 times, about? Next, a lowly staffer will be blamed? Or him? Who? Mistakes(17)? Nefarious intent? Him, or the staffer?

He is respectable and honest or he’s not. It would be a great question for an LSAT test. As a lib, you would So Torn trying to answer it.

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@mott-the-hoople said
comey signed THREE of the FISA applications...quit lying.
He signed certifications for the initial application and two renewals. Those certifications contain what the IG, not what you, said.

Again, you make the most ridiculous and transparently false claims that other people are "lying" then any adult I've ever dealt with.

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@averagejoe1 said
What was he saying he was wrong, 17 times, about? Next, a lowly staffer will be blamed? Or him? Who? Mistakes(17)? Nefarious intent? Him, or the staffer?

He is respectable and honest or he’s not. It would be a great question for an LSAT test. As a lib, you would So Torn trying to answer it.
Try reading the Report. It clearly states that the agents and some of their supervisors were responsible for the failure to exclude possibly exculpatory information from the warrant applications, not Comey.

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