This is a tough one. North Korea may be counting on help from China, but does China really want to be involved?
The thing I would like to see, is China step across the border, and slap some common sense in to North korea. It won't happen though, and the sabre rattling will continue.
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Why is it, at any given time someone rocks th apple cart of the world? Human nature for conflict?
Originally posted by FMFThe scenario was them being the aggressor. I doubt China would condone those actions. I doubt China would piss away all the U.S. debt they hold and all the very favorable trade they have w/the U.S. If not for the U.S their economy would go belly up. The U.S. is worth a lot more to China than N.Korea.
So your hypothetical DOES involve China standing by without acting as a country along its border, that it more or less sponsors, is attacked?
No I do not think they would engage in a war w/the U.S. and NATO over N.Korea in your scenarios
Originally posted by FMFChina is that wild card, and I see no reason that they would not come to the Norths aide, do you?
How long do you think it would take for the U.S./R.O.K. to defeat DPRK [and not necessarily install a new regime] with China militarily opposing it and without the deployment of nuclear weapons?
Originally posted by utherpendragonThat's what McArthur thought until the Chinese handed the US its worst military defeat in modern history in November 1950.
I would say a few months.
They have no air force to speak of ,no navy. they dont have the resources to fight a long war. their troops and civilians are starving. I believe our navy alone could bomb them into submission.
Now with China "opposed" to it, I dont know what you mean. fighting us militarily? I doubt that would happen
Originally posted by normbenignThe same argument was made for Iraq and Afghanistan (and Vietnam) for that matter. How'd that theory work out?
That is another thing differing from Iraq or Afghanistan. We would be fighting alongside Koreans to liberate their northern brethren. I'll bet there are a whole lot of N. Koreans if given the choice they would prefer the S. Korean government and prosperity to the N. Korean tyranny.
Originally posted by utherpendragonHow many ground troops would you imagine the U.S. committing? What would be 'acceptable casualty levels' for the U.S.? Do you imagine that the N.Koreans, in the event of war, would succeed in hitting targets in South Korea and Japan with nuclear warheads?
Yes I do [think the U.S. could handle a full scale war on the Korean peninsular right now despite the fact it's currently fighting on two fronts in western/central Asia.]
Originally posted by FMFWhat scenario are we talking about fmf? First you said no nukes and now its nukes!
How many ground troops would you imagine the U.S. committing? What would be 'acceptable casualty levels' for the U.S.? Do you imagine that the N.Koreans, in the event of war, would succeed in hitting targets in South Korea and Japan with nuclear warheads?
Originally posted by FMFIt's not real clear to me how many they have. Does anyone know?
How many ground troops would you imagine the U.S. committing? What would be 'acceptable casualty levels' for the U.S.? Do you imagine that the N.Koreans, in the event of war, would succeed in hitting targets in South Korea and Japan with nuclear warheads?
I think we have 47K troops there now?
I think we could bomb them in to the stone age in a week though.
You're right, it would be bloody though, I wouldn't want to call the shots.