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"John McCain and Sarah Palin they call this socialistic," Obama continued. "You know I don’t know when, when they decided they wanted to make a virtue out of selfishness."



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obamas-new-atta.html

If you don't want to pay Obama's new taxes for a new more Socialistic America, then you are being selfish. Nice.

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Originally posted by Eladar
[b]"John McCain and Sarah Palin they call this socialistic," Obama continued. "You know I don’t know when, when they decided they wanted to make a virtue out of selfishness."



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obamas-new-atta.html

If you don't want to pay Obama's new taxes for a new more Socialistic America, then you are being selfish. Nice.[/b]
Selfish - arising from concern with one's own welfare or advantage in disregard of others. http://mw1.m-w.com/dictionary/selfish

Yes, someone who has an income in the top few percent and refuses to accept a very modest increase in their tax burden (all the way to what RONALD REAGAN taxed them) in order to help the country in this time of crisis is, by definition, selfish.

Deal with it.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Selfish - arising from concern with one's own welfare or advantage in disregard of others. http://mw1.m-w.com/dictionary/selfish

Yes, someone who has an income in the top few percent and refuses to accept a very modest increase in their tax burden (all the way to what RONALD REAGAN taxed them) in order to help the country in this time of crisis is, by definition, selfish.

Deal with it.
If you read what Obama said you'll find that he'll never raise the kind of money necessary by simply taxing the rich.

How much money will he have to raise to make sure that every American has Health Care and every American can have the opportunity to a college education?

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Originally posted by Eladar
If you read what Obama said you'll find that he'll never raise the kind of money necessary by simply taxing the rich.

How much money will he have to raise to make sure that every American has Health Care and every American can have the opportunity to a college education?
No, he'd have to stop wasting money on useless war, too.

Wait a minute ..................

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Originally posted by no1marauder
No, he'd have to stop wasting money on useless war, too.

Wait a minute ..................
Take the money we are spending on Iraq and combine it with the money from taxing those who make more than 250 000 and you won't have enough money to fund a national health care system and a national college fund.

It would be nice if it wasn't so expensive. I'm afraid we all have to take costs into consideration.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Take the money we are spending on Iraq and combine it with the money from taxing those who make more than 250 000 and you won't have enough money to fund a national health care system and a national college fund.

It would be nice if it wasn't so expensive. I'm afraid we all have to take costs into consideration.
Since Obama hasn't proposed either, than there's no problem.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Since Obama hasn't proposed either, than there's no problem.
Obviously you haven't read the link.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Obviously you haven't read the link.
Where in the link does it make the false assertion that Obama has proposed a National Health Insurance or National College Fund?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Where in the link does it make the false assertion that Obama has proposed a National Health Insurance or National College Fund?
It's in his definition of having a decent shot.

it’s that when we actually make sure that everybody’s got a shot – when young people can all go to college, when everybody’s got decent health care,

According to Obama, he is doing this so that all young people can go to college and everybody's got decent health care.

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Originally posted by Eladar
[b]"John McCain and Sarah Palin they call this socialistic," Obama continued. "You know I don’t know when, when they decided they wanted to make a virtue out of selfishness."



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obamas-new-atta.html

If you don't want to pay Obama's new taxes for a new more Socialistic America, then you are being selfish. Nice.[/b]
To want to raise taxes in this economic environment is not virtuous, rather, it is suicidal. God help us all!!

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Originally posted by Eladar
It's in his definition of having a decent shot.

[b]it’s that when we actually make sure that everybody’s got a shot – when young people can all go to college, when everybody’s got decent health care,


According to Obama, he is doing this so that all young people can go to college and everybody's got decent health care.[/b]
LMAO!

You people are truly ridiculous. Making sure that "young can all go to college" or "that everybody has decent health care" doesn't require that the government pay ALL college and health care costs. The programs proposed by Obama in these two areas would cost far less than the Iraq occupation.

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Originally posted by whodey
To want to raise taxes in this economic environment is not virtuous, rather, it is suicidal. God help us all!!
You know perfectly well that the proposal increases taxes on only the top few percent of income earners (back to what they paid under Ronald Reagan), while reducing them for virtually all the rest. You seem to relish continuing to tell untruths; I guess believing that the American people will believe these lies is the only hope Republican shills like you have left.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
LMAO!

You people are truly ridiculous. Making sure that "young can all go to college" or "that everybody has decent health care" doesn't require that the government pay ALL college and health care costs. The programs proposed by Obama in these two areas would cost far less than the Iraq occupation.
I'm afraid you are wrong. The money being spend on Iraq and the money brought in by taxes on those making more than 250 000 would not be enough to cover these two promises.

There are alot of people out there who can neither afford college nor afford health care.

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Originally posted by Eladar
I'm afraid you are wrong. The money being spend on Iraq and the money brought in by taxes on those making more than 250 000 would not be enough to cover these two promises.

There are alot of people out there who can neither afford college nor afford health care.
The money spent on Iraq and the increase in the top rate would bring in $250 billion a year approximately. That dwarfs the costs of Obama's college and health care programs.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
You know perfectly well that the proposal increases taxes on only the top few percent of income earners (back to what they paid under Ronald Reagan), while reducing them for virtually all the rest. You seem to relish continuing to tell untruths; I guess believing that the American people will believe these lies is the only hope Republican shills like you have left.
Raising taxes on the top few percent is still raising taxes. Are you suggesting that this will have NO ill effect on the staggering economy? In addition, what about the tax cuts set to expire in 2010? Obama originally voted against the measure so do you expect him to reinstate them? If they expire, we will be paying back what Obama may give us the next tax season and then some.

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