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09 Oct 13
Originally posted by KellyJayThe President cannot change at his whim what are essential services in a government shutdown. The President does not have king-like powers to change the rules.
It is all about choices for example the Congress' gym/pool is open and the
President's golf course is open, Vets were not allowed access to Government
lands to see memorials, yet it was okayed for Illegals to go on the
Government’s grounds to protest said it was okay.
So someone in the government made the call that during a war we can
take that away from our military and their family.
Kelly
If he did, why wouldn't he just fund the entire government? Why wouldn't he just raise the debt ceiling on his own?
To provide military death benefits in a government shutdown, both houses of Congress must first pass a bill to do that, and the President signs it.
Originally posted by sasquatch672The title of your thread shows your complete ignorance. It is the Tea Party shutdown that denied military death benefits.
So, this is something that can't be undone. And this is playing politics, in as disgusting a manner as possible. Pure and simple. Moon - defend this.
Military families are being denied - because of the shutdown - death benefits, including money to travel to Andrews Air Force Base to meet the bodies of their fallen service member.
Somebody explain how this is ok.
The President cannot decide at his whim what is to be funded. The President does not have those king-like powers.
If he did, why wouldn't he just fund the entire government? Why wouldn't he just raise the debt ceiling on his own?
To provide military death benefits in a government shutdown, both houses of Congress must first pass a bill to do that, and the President signs it. Get a freaking clue. Jesus Christ, you are an idiot.
By the way, there are a lot of Americans suffering and paying the price because of the Tea Party shutdown.
Originally posted by EladarYour question makes no sense. Do you realize the insanity of picking 3 or 4 functions to fund out of the thousands of functions not funded?
Why shut down any more of the government than needs to be shut down?
Are you suggesting that the Tea Party go down the thousands of functions and put a check mark by the ones that are to be funded. That is the way to operate as a country?
The Tea Party should do their job and fund the government.
09 Oct 13
Originally posted by sasquatch672Meanwhile the TSA is sticking their hands down peoples pants and getting paid for it.
So, this is something that can't be undone. And this is playing politics, in as disgusting a manner as possible. Pure and simple. Moon - defend this.
Military families are being denied - because of the shutdown - death benefits, including money to travel to Andrews Air Force Base to meet the bodies of their fallen service member.
Somebody explain how this is ok.
09 Oct 13
Originally posted by moon1969To say nothing of him pretending to actually give a shat about military families.
The title of your thread shows your complete ignorance. It is the Tea Party shutdown that denied military death benefits.
The President cannot decide at his whim what is to be funded. The President does not have those king-like powers.
If he did, why wouldn't he just fund the entire government? Why wouldn't he just raise the debt ceiling on his o ...[text shortened]... , there are a lot of Americans suffering and paying the price because of the Tea Party shutdown.
09 Oct 13
Originally posted by moon1969
The title of your thread shows your complete ignorance. It is the Tea Party shutdown that denied military death benefits.
The President cannot decide at his whim what is to be funded. The President does not have those king-like powers.
If he did, why wouldn't he just fund the entire government? Why wouldn't he just raise the debt ceiling on his o ...[text shortened]... , there are a lot of Americans suffering and paying the price because of the Tea Party shutdown.
The President cannot decide at his whim what is to be funded. The President does not have those king-like powers.-moonbeam
Actually, the closing of war memorials, kicking people out of their houses not only closing down mt. rushmore but closing down any street that had a view of it, etc,etc falls upon the executive branch solely.
09 Oct 13
Originally posted by utherpendragonNot the funding to keep those places open. That falls on Congress.The President cannot decide at his whim what is to be funded. The President does not have those king-like powers.-moonbeam
Actually, the closing of war memorials, kicking people out of their houses not only closing down mt. rushmore but closing down any street that had a view of it, etc,etc falls upon the executive branch solely.
Originally posted by utherpendragonThe national parks are not funded in the Tea Party government shutdown. Get a clue. Funding of the national parks does not fall solely on the executive branch. You need to go back to civics class.The President cannot decide at his whim what is to be funded. The President does not have those king-like powers.-moonbeam
Actually, the closing of war memorials, kicking people out of their houses not only closing down mt. rushmore but closing down any street that had a view of it, etc,etc falls upon the executive branch solely.
09 Oct 13
Originally posted by moon1969I was NOT blaming the President, our government did that! Now who in the
The President cannot change at his whim what are essential services in a government shutdown. The President does not have king-like powers to change the rules.
If he did, why wouldn't he just fund the entire government? Why wouldn't he just raise the debt ceiling on his own?
To provide military death benefits in a government shutdown, both houses of Congress must first pass a bill to do that, and the President signs it.
government did it, I don't know. I do know that our President is in charge
of the government, and when it is all said and done his leadership helped
us get here.
Kelly
09 Oct 13
Originally posted by KellyJayNonsense. The Tea Party obstructionists are preventing Obama from forming complete thoughts. They have powers beyond your wildest imagination! 😲
I was NOT blaming the President, our government did that! Now who in the
government did it, I don't know. I do know that our President is in charge
of the government, and when it is all said and done his leadership helped
us get here.
Kelly
10 Oct 13
Originally posted by moon1969If Obama has no power to decide what stays up and what gets closed, then explain to me why parks are being closed this time that have never been closed before.
The President cannot change at his whim what are essential services in a government shutdown. The President does not have king-like powers to change the rules.
If he did, why wouldn't he just fund the entire government? Why wouldn't he just raise the debt ceiling on his own?
To provide military death benefits in a government shutdown, both houses of Congress must first pass a bill to do that, and the President signs it.
Obama does pick and choose what he will keep open and what he will close.
11 Oct 13
Originally posted by EladarNot at all. The rules were already set by Congress in defining essential services. The National Parks did not make the list.
If Obama has no power to decide what stays up and what gets closed, then explain to me why parks are being closed this time that have never been closed before.
Obama does pick and choose what he will keep open and what he will close.