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AverageJoe1
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So, y'all were fine with President Obama killing the Awlaki civilian, you spoke not a word. Today you are all writing that you do not want President Trump to do it.??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki

Trump should not be given such power by SCOTUS? But Obama had it??

Then , my little teaser of late, that you were OK with Biden dictating (dictating) that the government apply over $600B (google it) to school tuition loans, but you will NOT respond to my query......what if Trump had done that. Would you agree then???? You will not respond. You simply go dark. I've asked it 10 times.

Weakness of Debate prevails. It is no fun if you will not stand up for your principles.

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@AverageJoe1 said
So, y'all were fine with President Obama killing the Awlaki civilian, you spoke not a word. Today you are all writing that you do not want President Trump to do it.??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki

Trump should not be given such power by SCOTUS? But Obama had it??

Then , my little teaser of late, that you were OK with Biden dict ...[text shortened]... 0 times.

Weakness of Debate prevails. It is no fun if you will not stand up for your principles.
Yes. If trump got rid of student debt, I would support it.

What the hell is your problem?

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@shavixmir said
Yes. If trump got rid of student debt, I would support it.

What the hell is your problem?
You are saying that you would agree for Trump to dictate. Let me repeat.
(and by the way, thankyou for stepping up. Why are your friends weenies??)

You are saying that you would agree for Trump to DICTATE, without congressional approval, the appropriation of funds for 'something he wants to do'. Period.

Note here that you miss the issue. It is not about relieving the debt of the college students. It is about a president willy-nilly calling up the Treasury Secretary and telliing him to set aside billions of dollars for a pet project. Please. THAT is what we are talking about.

You all agreed Biden was OK to do it. Would you agree that Trump should be able to do that? Would Trump be able to appropriate funds in that way?

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@AverageJoe1 said
You are saying that you would agree for Trump to dictate. Let me repeat.
(and by the way, thankyou for stepping up. Why are your friends weenies??)

You are saying that you would agree for Trump to DICTATE, without congressional approval, the appropriation of funds for 'something he wants to do'. Period.

Note here that you miss the issue. It is not about relievi ...[text shortened]... u agree that Trump should be able to do that? Would Trump be able to appropriate funds in that way?
You are SO disingenuous with this.

There is NO way, outside of putting it in his own pocket, Trump would ever give money to people who need it. What don't you get that he doesn't give a damn about anyone, Americans or other, except himself? He'd simply take it himself rather than give it to anyone, no matter how needy.

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@Suzianne said
You are SO disingenuous with this.

There is NO way, outside of putting it in his own pocket, Trump would ever give money to people who need it. What don't you get that he doesn't give a damn about anyone, Americans or other, except himself? He'd simply take it himself rather than give it to anyone, no matter how needy.
Please stop lying

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@Suzianne said
You are SO disingenuous with this.

There is NO way, outside of putting it in his own pocket, Trump would ever give money to people who need it. What don't you get that he doesn't give a damn about anyone, Americans or other, except himself? He'd simply take it himself rather than give it to anyone, no matter how needy.
We know of your personal animosity of Trump. I respect that, as you do my disdain for communists like Bernie. All good.

But here you speak of his personal bent which you believe to be selfish or uncaring....I think Bernie is a guy who wants producers to support non-producers. So you and I have similar concerns. All respected.

But to the issue: The issue of the day is the concept of being a dictator. I have simply posed this......Biden dictated that billions be used at his whim. You defend his action, many posts, defending his action. You cannot deny he is dictating, even SCOTUS confirmed it.
If Trump did it, would you say it would be OK? This may seem like a trick question, but y'all have left me no recourse but to point it all out.
If Trump did it, he would indeed be dictating. I fully believe that. So it would follow that Biden is dictating.
Please clarify your postion. This is a friendly debate.

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@AverageJoe1 said
We know of your personal animosity of Trump. I respect that, as you do my disdain for communists like Bernie. All good.

But here you speak of his personal bent which you believe to be selfish or uncaring....I think Bernie is a guy who wants producers to support non-producers. So you and I have similar concerns. All respected.

But to the issue: The issue o ...[text shortened]... ould follow that Biden is dictating.
Please clarify your postion. This is a friendly debate.
Patience, everyone....let us give her till nightfall.

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@AverageJoe1 said
You are saying that you would agree for Trump to dictate. Let me repeat.
(and by the way, thankyou for stepping up. Why are your friends weenies??)

You are saying that you would agree for Trump to DICTATE, without congressional approval, the appropriation of funds for 'something he wants to do'. Period.

Note here that you miss the issue. It is not about relievi ...[text shortened]... u agree that Trump should be able to do that? Would Trump be able to appropriate funds in that way?
I say that I’m in favour of reducing student loans.

You should not have a system where the executive powers are not held accountable.

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@shavixmir said
I say that I’m in favour of reducing student loans.

You should not have a system where the executive powers are not held accountable.
Yeah, me too. WHew.
Uh, can you not answer a question? The question, would it be OK for Trump to pull money like Biden did? Biden did, and even knowing he breaks the law and the court decision, you libbies say it is OK.
Can you tell us if it is OK if Trump does that when he enters office? Or tell us what you mean by executive powers not held accountable. I have NO idea what that means, at least being applied to this issue. Is it that Biden should not be accountable for executive powers? How about a fresh thread on that one.

I am so tired of re-writing this question for you not-so-artful dodgers.,

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@Wajoma said
Please stop lying
If you think that is a lie, then you deserve everything Trump will unleash upon America. With fascism spreading across the globe due to inattentive morons like you, I hope NZ doesn't fall victim to the same kind of evil government you espouse.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Yeah, me too. WHew.
Uh, can you not answer a question? The question, would it be OK for Trump to pull money like Biden did? Biden did, and even knowing he breaks the law and the court decision, you libbies say it is OK.
Can you tell us if it is OK if Trump does that when he enters office? Or tell us what you mean by executive powers not held accountable. I h ...[text shortened]... esh thread on that one.

I am so tired of re-writing this question for you not-so-artful dodgers.,
Please stop asking the same exact Bullsh-- question over and over and over and over and over. We've answered you numerous times. Maybe you're too stupid to understand, but morons like you are exactly who demagogues like Trump prey upon. And demagogues like Trump are exactly who you aid and abet with your foolish inattention. Pardon us for fighting your fascistic tendencies, but you don't get to just throw the country away. It's our country too, and we'd rather have democracy.

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@Suzianne said
Please stop asking the same exact Bullsh-- question over and over and over and over and over. We've answered you numerous times. Maybe you're too stupid to understand, but morons like you are exactly who demagogues like Trump prey upon. And demagogues like Trump are exactly who you aid and abet with your foolish inattention. Pardon us for fighting your fascistic tendenci ...[text shortened]... you don't get to just throw the country away. It's our country too, and we'd rather have democracy.
OK. But could you tell me the thread, page and post position on the page. That is the least you could do, after all the time and the perfectly executed issue put before you all. I would think that you yourself would want to hear what people think........Biden does it, but should Trump be able to do it too.?
Prove that you are not debating with talking points, that you can speak your mind.

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@AverageJoe1 said
We know of your personal animosity of Trump. I respect that, as you do my disdain for communists like Bernie. All good.

But here you speak of his personal bent which you believe to be selfish or uncaring....I think Bernie is a guy who wants producers to support non-producers. So you and I have similar concerns. All respected.

But to the issue: The issue o ...[text shortened]... ould follow that Biden is dictating.
Please clarify your postion. This is a friendly debate.
Except that you miss out on reason because you apparently expect something from your Orange Jesus for your support.

Some demagogues just want to see Rome burn. I wouldn't mind you throwing your country away if only it wasn't my country too.

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@AverageJoe1 said
OK. But could you tell me the thread, page and post position on the page. That is the least you could do, after all the time and the perfectly executed issue put before you all. I would think that you yourself would want to hear what people think........Biden does it, but should Trump be able to do it too.?
Prove that you are not debating with talking points, that you can speak your mind.
How many times do I have to tell you that by using a false given, you make your entire argument false? We see this since it is too obvious, but you have been conned and so the serpent looks like a President to you.

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@Suzianne said
How many times do I have to tell you that by using a false given, you make your entire argument false? We see this since it is too obvious, but you have been conned and so the serpent looks like a President to you.
Entertain us with the’false given’? By that, do you mean my hypothetical? Please, I am listening.

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