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HG

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This is a stupid debate.
Follow this history back 20 years with terrorism.
Where did the master mind of the Achille Lauro hijacking, end up? Iraq.
Who did he kill? An old man in a wheel chair on an anniversary cruise.
Kill them all

HG

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Well, lets see now how do I state this?
How many countries were involved in the food for oil "bilking" with Saddam? Here much about that anymore?
Now, you suppose that had anything to do with the lack of support from some of our allies?
Saddam wanted us and Iran to think he had big bombs, because he was scared sh$$@less of Iran. He was pulling a bluff, to keep them away. I wish we could have just let Iran take care of that whole problem, but we couldn't.
I the meantime, he is grabbing money as fast as he could by giving oil away, and taking money that should have went to the PEOPLE of Iraq

AThousandYoung
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Originally posted by uzless
Who is morally superior when it comes to dealing with suspected terrorists?


Consider the following:


Obama has authorized at least 2 missile strikes to kill suspected al Q terrorists in and around Pakistan since he has taken office. A few dozen people were killed instantly by the bombing attacks.


Bush authorized the arrest and imprisonment of a ...[text shortened]... ffect, what we are saying is that it's not okay to torture people, but killing them is fine!!??
Torture can be worse than killing.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Torture can be worse than killing.
depends on what your definition of torture is.

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Who is John Galt?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Torture can be worse than killing.
WOW!!!! And - what do you base this on?

I realise you may have been tortured but I KNOW you have not been killed, proven by the fact that you are able to type the above.

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Who is John Galt?

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Originally posted by uzless
Let me re-phrase it for you.

Why did everyone criticize Bush for creating the prison in guantanamo, but NO ONE is criticizing Obama for ACTUALLY KILLING people?
Uzless - I am going back to you original question posted. I will answer it with none of the pussy-footing around I have seen and offer another possible answer besides the trite "left media/right media" mush.

As I see it, during the past decade in America a powerful tool has been developed and is used extremely efficiently. At this point it stikes paralysing fear in everyone from the private citizen to the most powerful politician. It is a life ender. It is a charge of Racism!

I submit this may quell the ardor of those in the media whose job it is to be critical, because of the emcumbents..hmmm special characteristics.

btw I am prepared for the slings and arrows - let them fly, do your worst. 😀

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
so the war in iraq and afghanistan was not authorized by bush, but by daffy duck?
actually Bush presented it to congress and the DEMOCRATIC congress voted it into LAW. This wasn't Bush's private war....it is a BI-PARTISON war!

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Originally posted by Hugh Glass
Well, lets see now how do I state this?
How many countries were involved in the food for oil "bilking" with Saddam? Here much about that anymore?
Now, you suppose that had anything to do with the lack of support from some of our allies?
Saddam wanted us and Iran to think he had big bombs, because he was scared sh$$@less of Iran. He was pulling a bluff ...[text shortened]... as he could by giving oil away, and taking money that should have went to the PEOPLE of Iraq
yeah!

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