23 Apr 22
@zahlanzi saidOf course he said it:
I would go on a limb to say that he absolutely didn't say that, you're just talking from between your gluteus maximuses, without any link whatsoever. Whatever fox news poured into your dumb skull or whatever you misunderstood from a breitbart 20 second out of context clip.
It was probably something along the lines of "if you get banned on Facebook for dumb crap, that's ...[text shortened]... speech being trampled on". Which is some basic thing anyone with at least half a brain already knows
"“The First Amendment is a check on the power of the state. It doesn't apply to private companies like Facebook or Twitter any more than it applies to editorial decisions made by the New York Times or Fox News,” he said."
https://abc6onyourside.com/news/connect-to-congress/[WORD TOO LONG]
@no1marauder saidSo you are saying that Obama** is correct that Social Media should be 'reined in' and be restricted with their speech (obvious exceptions of course which we all know)? Marauder flies right in the face of Liberty. Creepy stuff.
Obama is, of course, correct.
Try reading the First Amendment.
**. I wrote earlier what a hypocrite he is, after coming out of the seemingly darkness, though we know he has been sitting under the Oval Office desk this whole time.
The hypocrisy is tha he told the biggest lie ever, you can keep your doctor, cost my grandmother thousands (not really), and today is saying that disinformation can' kill people'.
Jesus.
23 Apr 22
@averagejoe1 saidAre you an idiot? A yes or no answer will be fine.
So you are saying that Obama** is correct that Social Media should be 'reined in' and be restricted with their speech (obvious exceptions of course which we all know)? Marauder flies right in the face of Liberty. Creepy stuff.
**. I wrote earlier what a hypocrite he is, after coming out of the seemingly darkness, though we know he has been sitting under the Oval Off ...[text shortened]... r thousands (not really), and today is saying that disinformation can' kill people'.
Jesus.
Obama is correct that the First Amendment doesn't apply to private social media companies. What those companies do is their business.
That is what I said, not the BS you tried to put into my mouth.
Now if you want to see an actual example of the government violating First Amendment rights, see DeSantis and the Florida Legislature revoking Disney's special district status (granted 55 years ago to encourage its massive investment there) just because the company criticized his anti-gay law. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article260682577.html
23 Apr 22
@no1marauder saidYou are correct in this regard. What the companies do is their business.
Are you an idiot? A yes or no answer will be fine.
Obama is correct that the First Amendment doesn't apply to private social media companies. What those companies do is their business.
That is what I said, not the BS you tried to put into my mouth.
Marauder,,,,,,,,,So, then, is it Obama's business.?? You libs simply cannot nail down anything.
23 Apr 22
@averagejoe1 saidHe's exercising his First Amendment right to comment on what he thinks they should do. He's not proposing, AFAIK, the government intervene to mandate their policies.
You are correct in this regard. What the companies do is their business.
Marauder,,,,,,,,,So, then, is it Obama's business.?? You libs simply cannot nail down anything.
24 Apr 22
@no1marauder said"What he thinks they should do". Exactly. He thinks something should be 'done' about free speech. If it is 'done' Marauder, it aint free anymore.
He's exercising his First Amendment right to comment on what he thinks they should do. He's not proposing, AFAIK, the government intervene to mandate their policies.
24 Apr 22
@averagejoe1 saidThere is no such thing as "free speech" on platforms other private individuals own. You are as "free" as they want you to be there.
"What he thinks they should do". Exactly. He thinks something should be 'done' about free speech. If it is 'done' Marauder, it aint free anymore.
The First Amendment has nothing to do with such matters; it only concerns itself with government restrictions on speech.
24 Apr 22
@no1marauder saidI see what you mean, you are correct, I did say Obama is 'after our first amendment rights." A certain misspeak. You know, I hope, that I meant he wants to control speech. Specifically on social media. Do you think that this is a good idea? Should anyone control anyone's speech? (legal and complying with the golden rule)
There is no such thing as "free speech" on platforms other private individuals own. You are as "free" as they want you to be there.
The First Amendment has nothing to do with such matters; it only concerns itself with government restrictions on speech.
That is my issue of this thread. Got excited and typed first amendment. Still got Con-law in my head.
Please see this simple link . He said all this when he in fact told the lie of the century, as president, which hurt people.
https://news.stanford.edu/2022/04/21/disinformation-weakening-democracy-barack-obama-said/
24 Apr 22
@averagejoe1 saidabsolutely yes. corporations should control the content on the products they created.
I see what you mean, you are correct, I did say Obama is 'after our first amendment rights." A certain misspeak. You know, I hope, that I meant he wants to control speech. Specifically on social media. Do you think that this is a good idea? Should anyone control anyone's speech? (legal and complying with the golden rule)
That is my issue of this thread. Got exci ...[text shortened]... eople.
https://news.stanford.edu/2022/04/21/disinformation-weakening-democracy-barack-obama-said/
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24 Apr 22
@suzianne saidNo problem.....
"conniving word-twisting: e.g., reframing abortion rights as "reproductive health"
You're obviously not a woman.
In some areas of the country, Planned Parenthood provides many necessary reproductive health services, like pap smears, etc. Closing a Planned Parenthood clinic forces many poor women to travel outrageous distances to the next healrhcare provider.
Your saying this just seems like more "mansplaining".
When these brown women have more children,
and the children become old enough to vote, these
same 'patriots,' will figure a way to make
certain that their vote won't count.
24 Apr 22
@jimm619 saidAlll good points, these folks can have at it, ....nobody steps in and protects me when I make bad plans, or, dont plan. So, I see no need to discuss roe/wade or whether someone has a right to end a pregnancy inside their body....after all, there is freedom in this country to do things.
No problem.....
When these brown women have more children,
and the children become old enough to vote, these
same 'patriots,' will figure a way to make
certain that their vote won't count.
Who should pay for planned parenthood, though? Isn't that a better issue? And let's not forget insurance available to people to pay for meds, assuming they have made good choices.
Y0u might note that I am into proper planning, and keeping it to themselves. Got my own stuff going on, as long as I am charitable in areas of need. A child living on the street (we call it 'At Risk'😉 is my main focus. I always sound mean, a lib word, but I am more concerned about such a child than a reprobate parent.
25 Apr 22
@averagejoe1 said"What the companies do is their business."
You are correct in this regard. What the companies do is their business.
Marauder,,,,,,,,,So, then, is it Obama's business.?? You libs simply cannot nail down anything.
Unless they want to pay Hunter Biden a lot of money, then, suddenly, it's a crime.
@averagejoe1 saidYour post makes absolutely no sense.
Your post makes absolutely no sense. Tongue-in-cheek, facetious . clever, confusing, comments have to be really good to not fall flat.
Her post makes more sense that you think joe. 21 companies and over 300 individuals were convicted of fraud in 2021 alone and you say nothing about it. (See dept. of justice dept. link) but let Hunter Biden grab some headlines for something he (might have) done, and we never hear the end of it from you in these forums.
https://www.justice.gov/criminal-fraud/file/1472076/download