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Originally posted by jeannie7
do people also get married because they feel obligated? surely not all marriages are founded on love!

my boyfriend says he feels obligated to marry me, that it is the right thing to do and that the joy and pleasure i give him obligates him to do so.
Enjoy your cursed life of unhappiness.

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Originally posted by jeannie7
do people also get married because they feel obligated? surely not all marriages are founded on love!

my boyfriend says he feels obligated to marry me, that it is the right thing to do and that the joy and pleasure i give him obligates him to do so.
Yes they do, but that doesn't mean it's a correct reason to do so. Matters of relationship are rarely ruled by rational thinking. Tell your boyfriend that obligation is something best left out of the notion of marriage.

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Originally posted by jeannie7
do people also get married because they feel obligated? surely not all marriages are founded on love!

my boyfriend says he feels obligated to marry me, that it is the right thing to do and that the joy and pleasure i give him obligates him to do so.
What is the real question you're dying to ask?

Your original post led me to think you want to get married, and feel some impatience, as you're giving the man sex, (all assumptions yes, but based on words you used, think it was safe.)

Now you further explain that he feels it is the right thing to do, because you're hot in bed with him, (which sounds completely stupid to me.)

So, tell us, are you bringing this to forums because you're angry that he wants to marry you out of a sense of obligation, rather than professing to you his pure joy at having you in his life, and wanting to partner up on paper? Do you feel he would not love you if you were crippled in an accident and unable to soothe his angry snake?

What's the real question?

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Originally posted by Rajk999
I really heard thats the case in some Islamic countries. Recently Ivanhoe posted a news report in which a man - cant remember the name of the country - was instructed (by the judge) to marry a goat because the owner caught him having sex with the goat. The same principle might apply to sex with women.
Marry the goat?!

Do the local inhabitants not find this in the least bit strange?

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Originally posted by Rajk999
I really heard thats the case in some Islamic countries. Recently Ivanhoe posted a news report in which a man - cant remember the name of the country - was instructed (by the judge) to marry a goat because the owner caught him having sex with the goat. The same principle might apply to sex with women.
AH, good aul Ivanhoe, the fountain of all knowledge related to spreading the hate of a certain set of people. And it works, eh?

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[EDIT] I do believe this to be the story that Ivanhoe got from some anti-Islam propoganda site and used to further people's negative views of Islam. As far as I can see, instead of going to the police and getting a judge to declare them man-and-wife, the owner, along with the village elders, decided to tell the man, you shagged my goat, now you own it, but you must pay a dowry seeing as you used it as a wife. Seems like a great outcome. What would anybody have gained if the man had been sent to jail?

"A Sudanese man has been forced to take a goat as his "wife", after he was caught having sex with the animal.

The goat's owner, Mr Alifi, said he surprised the man with his goat and took him to a council of elders.

They ordered the man, Mr Tombe, to pay a dowry of 15,000 Sudanese dinars ($50) to Mr Alifi.

"We have given him the goat, and as far as we know they are still together," Mr Alifi said.

Mr Alifi, Hai Malakal in Upper Nile State, told the Juba Post newspaper that he heard a loud noise around midnight on 13 February and immediately rushed outside to find Mr Tombe with his goat.

"When I asked him: 'What are you doing there?', he fell off the back of the goat, so I captured and tied him up".

Mr Alifi then called elders to decide how to deal with the case.

"They said I should not take him to the police, but rather let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife," Mr Alifi told the newspaper."

[EDIT2]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4748292.stm

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
Mr Alifi, Hai Malakal in Upper Nile State, told the Juba Post newspaper that he heard a loud noise around midnight on 13 February and immediately rushed outside to find Mr Tombe with his goat.
The poor ol' sob. He was probably taught as a child that it's a bad thing to masturbate, and finally he just couldn't take it anymore (looking for a release anywhere).

Or, he really like goats, in which case he's now a happily married man. 😀

What confuses me is that in some parts of the world people are allowed to marry animals (in a sense) but at the same time few nations believe that perfectly healthy, human gays should be allowed to enter into holy matrimony.

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Originally posted by stocken
What confuses me is that in some parts of the world people are allowed to marry animals (in a sense)
Where?

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Originally posted by SJ247
What is the real question you're dying to ask?

Your original post led me to think you want to get married, and feel some impatience, as you're giving the man sex, (all assumptions yes, but based on words you used, think it was safe.)

Now you further explain that he feels it is the right thing to do, because you're hot in bed with him, (which sounds compl ...[text shortened]... rippled in an accident and unable to soothe his angry snake?

What's the real question?
Agreed, serious relationships where you want to settle down (marriage isn't relevant, this could be the next stage in a relationship though) isn't just about being good in bed, it is about wanting to share a life together.

Therefore, to even reach the stage to get married, you should already be in a position to feel comfortable together in the first place. This leaves no room for obligation.

Putting that kind of pressure on your other half isn't a healthy relationship, as far as I am concerned.

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Originally posted by Starrman
12 inches.
This reminds me of a conversation I had with an exgirlfriend. We were discussing how many previous partners we had had. A conversation, by the way, that serves no useful purpose and really should be avoided.

Anyway she rather surprised me when she said 70! For some reason this really bugged me. Suddenly I thought if the average man is 6 inches that means she has had 35 foot of man's finest asset.

I remember reading in a trashy magazine that when a woman confides in you how many partners she has had you should always times it by 3. Immeadiately I was thinking 210 or more than 100 feet of Man's finest assest. This disturbing wooden image got lodged in the memory and our relationship perished soon afterwards.

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Originally posted by jeannie7
How long should you let your boyfriend have his way with you until he is obliged to marry you?
A man should only ask for a womans hand in marriage if he can guarantee the answer of yes to 3 questions: If

1st: He has finished his selection process, he is in love and committed to the girl and wishes to stay with her forever.
2nd. He has the balls to ask her father for her hand in marriage.
3rd. The girl will definitely say yes.

If there is the slightest doubt about any of these do not bother. If you are under 30 I wouldn't bother either but that is just a personal opinion.

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And people ask why there's so much divorce in this country...

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Originally posted by invigorate
This reminds me of a conversation I had with an exgirlfriend. We were discussing how many previous partners we had had. A conversation, by the way, that serves no useful purpose and really should be avoided.

Anyway she rather surprised me when she said 70! For some reason this really bugged me. Suddenly I thought if the average man is 6 inches that mea ...[text shortened]... isturbing wooden image got lodged in the memory and our relationship perished soon afterwards.
70?!? in how many years? shes had her fair share and more lol some poeple have all the luck 😛 lol

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isn't marriage an obligation by both partners anyway regardless of whether you actually married for "love"? basically isn't it a form of contract where you are obliged to keep your word and your moral obligations intack while together?


Do arranged marriages last longer than ones based on "love"? mmmm?

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Originally posted by jeannie7
isn't marriage an obligation by both partners anyway regardless of whether you actually married for "love"? basically isn't it a form of contract where you are obliged to keep your word and your moral obligations intack while together?


Do arranged marriages last longer than ones based on "love"? mmmm?
I guess some could as they have to have time to get to know if they actually like each other then they can decide if they do or not....... it all depends on the people involved in any marriage, not just the concept

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Originally posted by invigorate
A man should only ask for a womans hand in marriage if he can guarantee the answer of yes to 3 questions: If

1st: He has finished his selection process, he is in love and committed to the girl and wishes to stay with her forever.
2nd. He has the balls to ask her father for her hand in marriage.
3rd. The girl will definitely say yes.

If there is th ...[text shortened]... o not bother. If you are under 30 I wouldn't bother either but that is just a personal opinion.
The three questions are excellent, I fully concur. But a lower age limit of 30 is a bit steep, dont you think?

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