@jj-adams said
"a .44 is far more powerful than a .45 " is one of the most retarded things you have said on this site.
https://goneoutdoors.com/difference-45-acp-44-mag-8651399.html
Firing a bullet of approximately the same weight, the .45 ACP and .44 Magnum represent different approaches to cartridge design. The .45 ACP was designed for rapid, precision firing by police officers and soldiers. By contrast, the .44 Magnum is all about brute force, packing the maximum amount of energy into a single shot.
Same idea explains why in WW2 the US upgraded the tanks from 75 to 76 mm (which was also 75 mm but they called it 76 so people could tell the two guns’ ammo apart) the upgraded gun had a weaker High Explosive round than the 75 - same size projectile but it had to be redesigned with thicker shell walls to handle the higher velocity due to the greater amount of explosive in the chamber to accelerate the shell.
- Joined
- 23 Feb 22
- Moves
- 1798
@athousandyoung saidThe 222 Remington and the 222 Magnum have just the slightest difference, of which the .223 is right in the middle of.
.223 is literally based off the 222 magnum which was invented by the Army it’s a perfect comparison to the .45 and .44 magnum
It's not some big hairy deal.
There are a slew of 22 centerfire cartridges that are far more powerful.
What are you trying to say?
That the 5.56mm is some kind of atomic bomb bullet?
@jj-adams saidNothing. The 2nd amendment doesn’t offer you these rights. It’s a misreading of what that law actually states.
I agree, military assault rifles that are offered on the civilian market and are allowed because they only fire semi-auto are way too much firepower to be in the hands of civilians.
I get it. I have owned several over the years, but any claim of having them for home defense is ridiculous, I had shotguns and pistols that were plenty good for home defense.
So what should we be allowed to keep in our home and still claim 2nd Amendment rights?
You join a regulated militia (which nowadays we call ‘the army’ ) then you can have a gun.
@jj-adams saidSince it's such a great idea for the US to be pouring a flood of weapons into Ukraine which are thousands of times deadlier than guns and rifles, why not give every US family anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles to keep US safe just in case those super-evil Russians or Koreans or Cubans or Iranians try to invade us? Are Ukrainians more important than Americans?
I agree, military assault rifles that are offered on the civilian market and are allowed because they only fire semi-auto are way too much firepower to be in the hands of civilians.
I get it. I have owned several over the years, but any claim of having them for home defense is ridiculous, I had shotguns and pistols that were plenty good for home defense.
So what should we be allowed to keep in our home and still claim 2nd Amendment rights?
@bunnyknight saidIt’s not a good idea to be pouring so much weaponry into Ukraine.
Since it's such a great idea for the US to be pouring a flood of weapons into Ukraine which are thousands of times deadlier than guns and rifles, why not give every US family anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles to keep US safe just in case those super-evil Russians or Koreans or Cubans or Iranians try to invade us? Are Ukrainians more important than Americans?
Definition
The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges."[18] In this strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[2][3][4]
It must be capable of selective fire.
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle, examples of intermediate cartridges are the 7.92×33mm Kurz, the 7.62×39mm and 5.56×45mm NATO.
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine.[5]
It must have an effective range of at least 300 metres (330 yards).
Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are not assault rifles according to the U.S. Army's definition. For example:
Select-fire M2 Carbines are not assault rifles; their effective range is only 180 metres (200 yd).[19]
Select-fire rifles such as the Fedorov Avtomat, FN FAL, M14, and H&K G3 main battle rifles are not assault rifles; they fire full-powered rifle cartridges.
Semi-automatic-only rifles like the Colt AR-15 are not assault rifles; they do not have select-fire capabilities.
Semi-automatic-only rifles with fixed magazines like the SKS are not assault rifles; they do not have detachable box magazines and are not capable of automatic fire.
Distinction from assault weapons
In the United States, selective-fire rifles are legally defined as "machine guns", and civilian ownership of those has been tightly regulated since 1934 under the National Firearms Act and since 1986 under the Firearm Owners Protection Act.[20] However, the term "assault rifle" is often conflated with "assault weapon", a U.S. legal category with varying definitions which includes many semi-automatic weapons. This use has been described as incorrect and a misapplication of the term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
@Metal-Brain
Ah, THAT explains why the NRA made it look like we ALL need to have AR 15's in our house, in our car, in our classrooms because they WANT us to live in fear so they can have the US own EIGHT hundred million weapons instead of the meager FOUR hundred million we now have.
Your obvious political agenda is hindering your already limited ability to think things through.
@sonhouse saidSemi-automatic-only rifles like the Colt AR-15 are not assault rifles; they do not have select-fire capabilities.
@Metal-Brain
Ah, THAT explains why the NRA made it look like we ALL need to have AR 15's in our house, in our car, in our classrooms because they WANT us to live in fear so they can have the US own EIGHT hundred million weapons instead of the meager FOUR hundred million we now have.
Your obvious political agenda is hindering your already limited ability to think things through.
@Metal-Brain
Tell that to those murdering teenagers, their weapon of choice is the AR15 and it IS a form of assault rifle whether you and your comrades want to continue with that propaganda. Hey it worked for Maria so when are you going back to Moscow where you would be EXTREMELY happy?
@sonhouse saidIf you take away guns so people kill people with cars would you outlaw the model of cars most used to kill people? For example, Honda Accords are popular so if they were used the most to run over people would you want Honda Accords outlawed?
@Metal-Brain
Tell that to those murdering teenagers, their weapon of choice is the AR15 and it IS a form of assault rifle whether you and your comrades want to continue with that propaganda. Hey it worked for Maria so when are you going back to Moscow where you would be EXTREMELY happy?
AR15s are semi automatic rifles like a lot of other rifles. Why do you want to outlaw them? Because they look scary?
- Joined
- 23 Feb 22
- Moves
- 1798
@metal-brain saidStop saying that.
Semi-automatic-only rifles like the Colt AR-15 are not assault rifles; they do not have select-fire capabilities.
Take someone with a civilian AR15 or AK47 that only shoots semi-auto and place him against someone with a military full auto one.
Who could kill more people in a crowd?
It would be a coin toss. The more experienced one, no matter which gun he had, would be the winner.
@metal-brain saidWell done. But hold onto your ass because you are about to be rebutted by the definition of assault *weapon*
Definition
The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges."[18] In this strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[2][3][4]
It must be capable of selective fire.
It mus ...[text shortened]... cribed as incorrect and a misapplication of the term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
Good luck
@earl-of-trumps saidThere's no need to rebut anything. He posted it in the quote you are responding to!
Well done. But hold onto your ass because you are about to be rebutted by the definition of assault *weapon*
Good luck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
Distinction from assault weapons
In the United States, selective-fire rifles are legally defined as "machine guns", and civilian ownership of those has been tightly regulated since 1934 under the National Firearms Act and since 1986 under the Firearm Owners Protection Act.[20] However, the term "assault rifle" is often conflated with "assault weapon", a U.S. legal category with varying definitions which includes many semi-automatic weapons. This use has been described as incorrect and a misapplication of the term.