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Originally posted by wolfgang59http://domsweirdnews.blogspot.com/2007/03/british-wealth-map.html
Unequal?
In 2010 the Welsh were represented in Westminster with a seat per 76,000
the Scottish had a seat per 89,000 while England and Northern Ireland were
under represented; needing 100,000 per seat.
On top of that Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have their
own assemblies which England does not. Hardly English domination!
And what about the Cornish and Manx? I suppose they are oppressed too?
Also a lot of seemingly symbolic stuff like language and indigenousness and all that.
The Cornish are from the same root people as the Welsh - the Brython Celts.
Not sure about Manx, they seem to be Gaels, but I don't know anything about them.
Oh yeah the Queen has a veto...which sux
27 Aug 13
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThe Queen's veto does suck ... but as far as I know it's never been used.
http://domsweirdnews.blogspot.com/2007/03/british-wealth-map.html
Also a lot of seemingly symbolic stuff like language and indigenousness and all that.
The Cornish are from the same root people as the Welsh - the Brython Celts.
Not sure about Manx, they seem to be Gaels, but I don't know anything about them.
Oh yeah the Queen has a veto...which sux
Besides which the queen is hardly English ... Since 1066 England has been ruled by foreigners; Normans then Tudors who were Welsh, Stuarts who were Scottish then after that a mish-mash of Germans.
And a wealth map means nothing - the South East of England is full of
Scots, Welsh, Irish and every other nationality of the world.
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Originally posted by stellspalfiehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics
didnt see you lot complaining when we give you big jack and a bunch of english (a couple of scots and a welshman) players for the 1990 + 1994 world cups. that didnt stop you dancing in the streets when you beat romania on pens did it? how many irish players were in the 1990 squad???
"Historian Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. discussed identity politics extensively in his book The Disuniting of America. Schlesinger, a strong supporter of liberal conceptions of civil rights, argues that a liberal democracy requires a common basis for culture and society to function.
In his view, basing politics on group marginalization fractures the civil polity, and therefore works against creating real opportunities for ending marginalization. Schlesinger believes that "movements for civil rights should aim toward full acceptance and integration of marginalized groups into the mainstream culture, rather than...perpetuating that marginalization through affirmations of difference.""
JS: It is a dilemma for the liberal mind, and no problem at all for others.
27 Aug 13
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodyI'd be more concerned about the injustice of the charges, and trial, than how the press identifies them.
The two girls arrested in Peru for smuggling drugs
are described by the British media as Northern Irish
and Scottish.
This because they have transgressed.
But if they had won gold medals in the Olympics
or achieved good status in another way, then they
would be described as British.
I am sick and tired of the British propaganda machine w ...[text shortened]... /www.worldirish.com/story/21013-claiming-the-irish-the-top-5-irishbritish-identity-controversies
27 Aug 13
Originally posted by JS357Civil wars are usually fought over differences in culture that fester in a nation-state, sometimes for centuries. In the end, it is better that the unwilling to assimilate part be let go peacefully.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics
"Historian Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. discussed identity politics extensively in his book The Disuniting of America. Schlesinger, a strong supporter of liberal conceptions of civil rights, argues that a liberal democracy requires a common basis for culture and society to function.
In his view, basing politics o ...[text shortened]... difference.""
JS: It is a dilemma for the liberal mind, and no problem at all for others.
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27 Aug 13
Originally posted by normbenignTwo good examples are the confederate states of America, being left to secede with its enslaved, and let's say, Syria, being left to kill its people as needed. It is a dilemma, which some people will say is a no brainer.
Civil wars are usually fought over differences in culture that fester in a nation-state, sometimes for centuries. In the end, it is better that the unwilling to assimilate part be let go peacefully.
"Not our job."
27 Aug 13
Originally posted by wolfgang59http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9801835/Queen-and-Prince-Charles-using-power-of-veto-over-new-laws-Whitehall-documents-reveal.html
The Queen's veto does suck ... but as far as I know it's never been used.
Besides which the queen is hardly English ... Since 1066 England has been ruled by foreigners; Normans then Tudors who were Welsh, Stuarts who were Scottish then after that a mish-mash of Germans.
And a wealth map means nothing - the South East of England is full of
Scots, Welsh, Irish and every other nationality of the world.
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Originally posted by JS357Add Egypt, Libya, Bosnia, and Somalia to the list.
Two good examples are the confederate states of America, being left to secede with its enslaved, and let's say, Syria, being left to kill its people as needed. It is a dilemma, which some people will say is a no brainer.
"Not our job."
As with the CSA, people will look only at what did happen after the Civil War, and speculate on what would have happened if it were just left alone.
Good and moral people often want to feel "needed", and so justify unjustifiable actions.
In a few cases, we've taken the "not our job" course. Rwanda, and other subsaharan genocides come to mind. The cynical might say, it is only black people being killed.
27 Aug 13
Originally posted by PhrannyThere is a referendum planned in Scotland in 2014
I'm just a dumb Yank lass but I thought Scotland and perhaps other areas of GB have agitated for independance. Am I daft or is this correct???
to ask the Scottish people if they want to leave the UK
and be an independent country.
Hard to know what way that will go.
28 Aug 13
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodyYes it will be a tight one thanks to current economic circumstances.
There is a referendum planned in Scotland in 2014
to ask the Scottish people if they want to leave the UK
and be an independent country.
Hard to know what way that will go.
Still lots of "don't knows" I believe?
Even with independence the Scots will still be stuck with HRH & Phil The Greek. (Since she is Queen of Scotland)