19 Jun 07
Originally posted by SeitseYou want to do something daring? Kill your TV.
Ok, people, last night while surfing the TV channels I decided to do
something for the 1st time in my life: I paid attention to MTV.
I was utterly disgusted:
* Jackarse
* Filthy Sanchez
* Strutter (a bad copy of Sean Penn's lawyer at Carlito's Way)
* And lots of stuff like that.
Come on, those people really rejoice themselves in political
incor ...[text shortened]... rappers).
[b]Where is the middle point?
Where are the REAL free people?[/b]
19 Jun 07
Originally posted by spruce112358Here's one I came across recently:
More or less by accident, we gave up commercial TV about 4 years ago. So my 6-9 year old(s) have never seen MTV. In fact, they have rarely seen commercials. It was kind of an experiment at first -- instead, we started buying DVDs.
So the kind of things my kids see are old Disney live actions -- like Swiss Family Robinson, Old Yeller, and Davy Crocket ...[text shortened]... to choose 1 film to watch -- 1.5 hours, usually. And that's it for the day. No other TV.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055232/
I bought it on clearance for a buck, watched it and enjoyed it so much, I decided to keep it for when I have kids of my own or when children visit.
19 Jun 07
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Originally posted by Seitse"Rebels," like the ones in Star Wars?
Yup, agreed on the 'nothing has changed' thing; even the Bible says
so: What was yesterday is today and will be tomorrow.
What annoys me is that those who are seen by the mass as
the "rebels" are NOT real ones, least useful ones for shaking
the consciences (sic) and revolutionizing thought and art.
So I go back to the question: where are they (tod trying to sell as
"freedom" (and they do it successfully it seems) it is THE CONTRARY!
19 Jun 07
the rebels of today?
i think perhaps "rebels" have had different outlets throughout time. the impressionists of the late 19th, early 20th century, montmartre, the musicians of the 60s and 70 etc.
as for today, i'm not sure. perhaps someone like desmond tutu or the dalai lama? preachers of love, both enduring persecution but travelling through it and being made stronger?
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by PalynkaI don't know about lautremont, but both Voltaire and Wilde were wildly popular in their day (well, voltaire was, and Wildes work was)
Lautreamont, Wilde and Voltaire were also appreciated by a minority at the time, if you consider that the bulk of the population didn't even read.
Things are not that different, in my opinion.
Wilde had full houses at his plays, not just among the upper classes either but also the penny seat people. Maybe they didn't see it, but they weren't exactly minority culture.
I think we're lacking consistently good work like Wilde. Using a play on language, a subtlety in a sentence is much funnier than seeing a guy vomit from eating too much eggs, but it's harder to get right. I think the current state of affairs is just laziness ont he part of the producers and the audience.
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by agrysonAgreed & Amen.
I don't know about lautremont, but both Voltaire and Wilde were wildly popular in their day (well, voltaire was, and Wildes work was)
Wilde had full houses at his plays, not just among the upper classes either but also the penny seat people. Maybe they didn't see it, but they weren't exactly minority culture.
I think we're lacking consistently good work li ...[text shortened]... he current state of affairs is just laziness ont he part of the producers and the audience.
Sartori has something very interesting to say about that,
particularly in the Homo Videns.
