Privatizing Medicare

Originally posted by Soothfast
Since government represents the people, I say government is the natural tool to use to create a health care organization. In fact we already have one called Medicare, which could serve as the germ for a larger scale organization that includes everybody. Don't stand in the way! You and I know that if you suddenly needed a liver transplant and you couldn' ...[text shortened]... ies to thank. You're a barrel of disjointed Randian fortune cookies gone stale.

wooo, cool down, you'll be needing state sponsored health care for the increased blood pressure, check back, I was responding to your claim that a free market leads to an unfree market haha 🙄 not to your claim that you know better how I should live my life.

Never made any claims to being an 'island' whatever that is supposed to mean.

Originally posted by Wajoma
wooo, cool down, you'll be needing state sponsored health care for the increased blood pressure, check back, I was responding to your claim that a free market leads to an unfree market haha not to your claim that you know better how I should live my life.

Never made any claims to being an 'island' whatever that is supposed to mean.

In other words you ain't got nuttin' to say, but I already knew that. We've also had this exchange before. Your logic is faulty. Societies and governments have rules that are bound to "crimp the style" of certain people. Like ax murderers. Why, with all these laws, regulations and whatnot, how's an honest ax murderer supposed to ply his trade as a free individual?

Now, you can say an ax murderer should not be allowed to roam free, in which case you acknowledge there are limitations to the rights of individuals. We can sit down in a pub, then, and perhaps decide on where the line is drawn between the rights of the many and the rights of the one. The funny thing is we both want the same thing: individual freedom. And the funny thing is that I would feel more free paying somewhat higher taxes for guaranteed health care than I do now, paying lower taxes and having health care tethered tenuously to my place of my employment. I'd feel more free to switch jobs, say, and move to a more desirable part of the country. My friend, that's what I'm talking about. Give a little money, get more freedom of motion. I'm not proposing tyrannies here -- I don't think I am. What I see in the U.S. is the tyranny of profits over people, and an awful lot of waste to boot.

So, insofar as I perceive you to be a champion of individual rights, I do take my hat off to you. However, I think you're wholly wrongheaded in your theories and beliefs as to how to go about maximizing the rights of individuals in a moral and well-functioning society.

Originally posted by Eladar
I have a question for those who like the Ryan idea of changing Medicare over to subsidizing health insurance for seniors:

Is there any guarantee that the amount of money the government is pay is going to be able to buy a decent policy?

If not, then how do you expect those who don't have the extra bucks to supplement the government's voucher to get coverage?

Just wondering.

If the Ryan plan ever passed, load up on stock for the insurance vultures.

Any step to be rid of any insurance scam, or plan, is a plus.