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Putin gets 'macho' with the U.S.

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Below is from today's AP article. Putin is right.

"It wasn't us who initiated a new round of arms race," Putin said when asked about Russia's missile tests this week at a news conference in Moscow.

He assailed the United States and other NATO members for failing to ratify an amended version of the 1990 Conventional Forces in Europe treaty, which limits the deployment of heavy non-nuclear weapons around the continent.

"We have signed and ratified the CFE and are fully implementing it. We have pulled out all our heavy weapons from the European part of Russia to (locations) behind the Ural Mountains and cut our military by 300,000 men," Putin said.

"And what about our partners? They are filling eastern Europe with new weapons. A new base in Bulgaria, another one in Romania, a (missile defense) site in Poland and a radar in the Czech Republic," he said. "What we are supposed to do? We can't just sit back and look at that."

He reaffirmed his warning that Russia would opt out of the CFE treaty altogether if NATO nations fail to ratify its amended version.

"Either you ratify the treaty and start observing it, or we will opt out of it," Putin said.

In remarks directed at Washington, Putin blasted those "who want to dictate their will to all others regardless of international norms and law."

"It's dangerous and harmful," he added. "Norms of the international law were replaced with political expediency. We view it as diktat and imperialism."

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Originally posted by infomast
Below is from today's AP article. Putin is right.

"It wasn't us who initiated a new round of arms race," Putin said when asked about Russia's missile tests this week at a news conference in Moscow.

He assailed the United States and other NATO members for failing to ratify an amended version of the 1990 Conventional Forces in Europe treaty, which limit ...[text shortened]... replaced with political expediency. We view it as diktat and imperialism."
Exciting! This may just make the Olympics fun to watch again.

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Originally posted by infomast
Below is from today's AP article. Putin is right.

"It wasn't us who initiated a new round of arms race," Putin said when asked about Russia's missile tests this week at a news conference in Moscow.

He assailed the United States and other NATO members for failing to ratify an amended version of the 1990 Conventional Forces in Europe treaty, which limit ...[text shortened]... replaced with political expediency. We view it as diktat and imperialism."
Good luck with your arms race Vlad! Hope you go broke this time too! Don't forget that this time around you have to worry about those pesky Chinese too! You're surrounded! Keep a close eye on them. They know you have what was once theirs and they want it back. Its part of there desire to reclaim land lost during imperialistuc wars.

Plus, if we stopped building new weapons systems today, it would take you 10-20 years to catch up.

My advice, don't worry so much about nuclear missiles that nobody can use. Start with trying to build a proper carrier. I bet you could field something compareable to a last generation (Nimitz class) carrier sometime in the next 20-30 years if you really, really try.

Also, keep in mind that the current replacement cost on one of those is about 35 billion. That's a lot of rubles Ivan. You might want to think about how you're going to pay for that if energy prices come back down sometime in the next decade.

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Originally posted by Merk
Good luck with your arms race Vlad! Hope you go broke this time too! Don't forget that this time around you have to worry about those pesky Chinese too! You're surrounded! Keep a close eye on them. They know you have what was once theirs and they want it back. Its part of there desire to reclaim land lost during imperialistuc wars.

Plus, if we stopped build ...[text shortened]... w you're going to pay for that if energy prices come back down sometime in the next decade.
I think it's the Yanks who have to watch out if the Chinese and Russians align.

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Originally posted by Esoteric
I think it's the Yanks who have to watch out if the Chinese and Russians align.
Good luck with all that!

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Originally posted by Merk
Good luck with all that!
You make it sound like i want it to happen. I'm sure we can all agree none of us want that to happen because not even the US could do anything about it.

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Originally posted by Esoteric
You make it sound like i want it to happen. I'm sure we can all agree none of us want that to happen because not even the US could do anything about it.
Yawn. Neither country has a world class Navy for example. That's something that will take several decades. Without a Navy, they can't get anywhere that isn't their own continent.

Besides all that, part of historic Chinese territory is now Russian. These two countries are not exactly natural allies.

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Originally posted by Merk
Besides all that, part of historic Chinese territory is now Russian. These two countries are not exactly natural allies.
As Cold War history makes clear. Had Mao & Stalin worked together more closely...

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I can just picture bush reading this news.

Yeeeeeee-ha! Poo-tin says Go!! Lets make sum nooookes!

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Originally posted by Merk
Of course it is, in a way. But what leads you to believe that the U.S. is overreacting?
You know, I think you are right, they really are being pretty reasonable. They aren't over-reacting, in fact they are being about as diplomatic as possible.

It really is Russia that is overreacting by taking this as a threat towards them.

Amazing what a day will do to the way you think.

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Originally posted by joneschr
I can just picture bush reading this news.

Yeeeeeee-ha! Poo-tin says Go!! Lets make sum nooookes!
I seriously doubt it...

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Russia is merely doing what we would do if the positions were reversed. That's all that needs saying.

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Originally posted by Draxus
I personally think that the US is overreacting. Just because they are developing new missile technology doesn't mean that these missiles are directed at us.
Of course not,sweaty. Now go back to watching scooby doo!

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