04 Nov 22
@wildgrass saidThere was a freedom of information request.
It's an irrelevant fact that randos on the internet want to peep on Seth Rich's laptop. Let police handle it.
Why do you condone covering it up when you know it will make things worse?
Are you afraid it would reveal he leaked the emails that proved the DNC was election meddling? DWS was forced to resign from the DNC for conspiracy to election meddle.
You need to confront the fact that Debbie Wasserman Schultz was caught in an election meddling conspiracy and the leaked emails exposed that. That is like finding out your girlfriend cheated on you and you blame the person that exposed it instead of your slutty girlfriend. Then you call the ethical person that exposed it a slut.
Exposing election meddling is not election meddling. Seth Rich revealed election meddling in the DNC. Then Russia was falsely blamed for it. Even if Russia had done it they are like the person that revealed your girlfriend is a slut. Shouldn't you be mad at your girlfriend instead of the guy that helped you dodge a bullet?
Regardless of who exposed those emails you should be thankful. That slut DWS was forced to resign.
04 Nov 22
@kevcvs57 said"If Seth was assassinated it was the Russians"
“ Michael Flynn is right. There is a powerful elite pedophile ring that will kill people to set an example and keep it secret.”
Well Flynn should know, him and Trump are the door security and cashier for that pedo club without a shadow of doubt.
If Seth was assassinated it was the Russians with the trump fringe trying to chuck some smoke and mirrors into who hacked the servers.
Stop lying and stop being a Russian troll you utter scumbag.
More proof you are a conspiracy theorist.
@metal-brain saidYes I know what Seth Rich's parents alleged:
Maybe you should explain to me what was the same claim I made that Fox news did. Do you even know what Seth's parents alleged? It is not the same at all you lying turd.
Seth Rich was assassinated. He was not robbed. He was shot in the back twice.
Seth's parents would like to know who assassinated their son just as much as anybody. They know he was murdered and not rob ...[text shortened]... There is a powerful elite pedophile ring that will kill people to set an example and keep it secret.
"His parents, Joel and Mary Rich, had objected to a Fox article and commentary falsely suggesting their son had leaked DNC emails to WikiLeaks during the presidential campaign."
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-lawsuits-seth-rich-robbery-52fe8b0d4e8e6256e16fe7ba0251b4f6
That is the same claim you have repeatedly and dishonestly made.
The rest of this post is crazy Pizzagate+, QAnon conspiracy theories that I have no intention to waste time "debating".
@metal-brain saidForeign military intelligence units stealing from US political parties in order to try to influence an election is a crime.
There was a freedom of information request.
Why do you condone covering it up when you know it will make things worse?
Are you afraid it would reveal he leaked the emails that proved the DNC was election meddling? DWS was forced to resign from the DNC for conspiracy to election meddle.
You need to confront the fact that Debbie Wasserman Schultz was caught in an e ...[text shortened]...
Regardless of who exposed those emails you should be thankful. That slut DWS was forced to resign.
Ranking members of a US political party preferring one candidate over another is not.
05 Nov 22
@no1marauder saidBe more specific. What did Fox news try to manipulate them into saying?
Yes I know what Seth Rich's parents alleged:
"His parents, Joel and Mary Rich, had objected to a Fox article and commentary falsely suggesting their son had leaked DNC emails to WikiLeaks during the presidential campaign."
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-lawsuits-seth-rich-robbery-52fe8b0d4e8e6256e16fe7ba0251b4f6
That is the same claim you have repeatedl ...[text shortened]... st is crazy Pizzagate+, QAnon conspiracy theories that I have no intention to waste time "debating".
05 Nov 22
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@metal-brain said"Defendants worked with Wheeler to pursue and develop a fiction that Seth had leaked thousands of DNC e-mails to Wikileaks. And they published, republished and publicized the sham story - which they knew would be covered again and again, and republished, here and around the world-painting Joel and Mary's son as a criminal and a traitor to the United States." paragraph 3, pages 1-2
Be more specific. What did Fox news try to manipulate them into saying?
"Joel and Mary went on:
"Still, conservative news outlets and commentators continue, day after painful day, to peddle discredited conspiracy theories that Seth was killed after having provided Wikileaks with emails from the DNC. Those theories, which some reporters have since retracted, are baseless, and they are unspeakably cruel."
paragraph 122, p. 21
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4410424-Rich-family-complaint-March-13-2018.html
05 Nov 22
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@no1marauder saidFox wanted them to promote a lie. His parents obviously don't know who killed their son, but it obviously was no robbery. Nothing was stolen and robbers usually shoot people in the front, not the back.
"Defendants worked with Wheeler to pursue and develop a fiction that Seth had leaked thousands of DNC e-mails to Wikileaks. And they published, republished and publicized the sham story - which they knew would be covered again and again, and republished, here and around the world-painting Joel and Mary's son as a criminal and a traitor to the United States." ...[text shortened]... 2, p. 21
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4410424-Rich-family-complaint-March-13-2018.html
The conspiracy theory that he leaked the DNC emails has never been discredited. The conspiracy theory that he was assassinated for leaking those emails have never been discredited. I think you copy and pasted a false quote. Julian Assange clearly indicated Seth Rich was involved. Mueller calling Assange a liar in his report did not debunk anything, especially since he has no evidence of who leaked or hacked the DNC emails. Mueller is the liar. He reported his opinion as a fact even if he believes it, but he knows Crowd Strike had no evidence. It was a lie.
05 Nov 22
@metal-brain saidI've showed you probably a dozen times the passages in the Mueller Report where they detail the exact dates and times the Russian military downloaded the files to Wikileaks - they even have some of the file names!
Fox wanted them to promote a lie. His parents obviously don't know who killed their son, but it obviously was no robbery. Nothing was stolen and robbers usually shoot people in the front, not the back.
The conspiracy theory that he leaked the DNC emails has never been discredited. The conspiracy theory that he was assassinated for leaking those emails have never been ...[text shortened]... s opinion as a fact even if he believes it, but he knows Crowd Strike had no evidence. It was a lie.
You've lied about Crowdstrike probably hundreds of times here based on one erroneous article that the company showed was false. It, like every other company and government agency that investigated the matter, concluded the DNC e-mails were hacked by a "phishing" method.
Seth Rich had nothing to do with it and there isn't a shred of evidence he did. His parents have made it abundantly clear that they regard people like you who continue to push this lie as scumbags and you had a lot of gall to try to use them to support this Russian inspired fairy tale in this thread. That is exactly what they sued Fox News and the rest for.
05 Nov 22
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@no1marauder
Mueller is a liar who went on a witch hunt to falsely prosecute Seven hatfill to allow the real anthrax criminals to go free. That anthrax came from a USA lab. USA government officials falsely blamed Iraq for it. The claim Russia hacked the DNC is a lie. That has been proven to over and over again countless times and you keep referring to Mueller's lies as if a proven liar is proof of anything.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020/05/13/crowdstrike_president_under_oath_no_proof_of_russia_dnc_hack_510974.html
Stop beating that dead horse over and over again. There is no proof Russia hacked the DNC. Crowdstrike admitted that under oath. Seth Rich's parent s are motivated by greed because that is all they can prove and they are understandably sick of false theories of all sorts you could only imagine. They have been harassed with a myriad of false claims that are ridiculous. Seth's brother was accused of helping Seth leak those emails. You have no idea how much they have been relentlessly harassed. That gave them the opportunity to profit from those false claims. That is all they have left. Think about it. Their son's murderer is running free and there is nothing they can do about it but sue the liars that come along making up false stories of all sorts.
06 Nov 22
@metal-brain saidYou have repeated the "Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence" lie hundreds of times. This despite me pointing you to this article which says exactly the opposite at least a dozen times: https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/
@no1marauder
Mueller is a liar who went on a witch hunt to falsely prosecute Seven hatfill to allow the real anthrax criminals to go free. That anthrax came from a USA lab. USA government officials falsely blamed Iraq for it. The claim Russia hacked the DNC is a lie. That has been proven to over and over again countless times and you keep referring to Mueller's lies as ...[text shortened]... nothing they can do about it but sue the liars that come along making up false stories of all sorts.
"Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC?
Yes,"
"Does CrowdStrike have evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC network?
Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32) and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, the Intelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.”
Did CrowdStrike see in real-time the adversaries exfiltrate data and emails from the DNC network?
No and that’s typical for incident response cases. In the vast majority of cyber investigations, incident responders don’t witness exfiltration in real-time. In fact, often we are called in after theft has taken place. We collect forensics, evidence of prior activity on the network, map where the adversary has gained access and prepare remediation plans.
In this particular case, CrowdStrike saw circumstantial evidence of data exfiltration from the DNC network. As a reference point circumstantial evidence is the type of evidence such as DNA analysis or fingerprints that are fully admissible in courts.
Shawn Henry stated in his testimony that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32 of the testimony):
“Counsel just reminded me that, as it relates to the DNC’ we have indicators that data was exfiltrated. We did not have concrete evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC, but we have indicators that it was exfiltrated.’
and circumstantial evidence that data was taken as he states on page 75 ”so there is circumstantial evidence that it was taken” and page 76:
“MR. HENRY: So, to go back, because I think it’s important to characterize this. We didn’t have a network sensor in place that saw data leave’ We said that the data Ieft based on the circumstantial evidence. That was a conclusion that we made. when I answered that question, I was trying to be as factually accurate’ I want to provide the facts. so I said that we didn’t have direct evidence’ But we made a conclusion that the data left the network.”
On page 32 of the testimony, Henry also explains that
“We don’t have video of it happening, but there are indicators that it happened” and “we did not have concrete evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC, but we have indicators that it was exfiltrated.”
At times you have blathered on and insisted that circumstantial evidence isn't "real" evidence but I've easily shot that down. So your continued lying about what Crowdstrike said is reprehensible, as is your completely evidence free claim that Seth Rich had anything to do with the theft of the e-mails. Luckily for you, you're just a lone loony on the internet that no one pays any attention to because what you are doing is the same thing that caused Fox News to get sued by Rich's parents.
07 Nov 22
@no1marauder saidYou are a lying piece of crap. Crowdstrike admitted under oath they had no evidence. This has been pointed out to you countless times.
You have repeated the "Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence" lie hundreds of times. This despite me pointing you to this article which says exactly the opposite at least a dozen times: https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/
"Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC?
Yes,"
"Does CrowdStrike have evide ...[text shortened]... to because what you are doing is the same thing that caused Fox News to get sued by Rich's parents.
From the link below:
"CrowdStrike, the private cyber-security firm that first accused Russia of hacking Democratic Party emails and served as a critical source for U.S. intelligence officials in the years-long Trump-Russia probe, acknowledged to Congress more than two years ago that it had no concrete evidence that Russian hackers stole emails from the Democratic National Committee’s server."
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/05/13/hidden_over_2_years_dem_cyber-firms_sworn_testimony_it_had_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc_123596.html
07 Nov 22
@metal-brain saidThe same old BS which the link I provided you debunked. You're using the weasel word "concrete" in front of "evidence" to try to ignore that Crowdstrike has ample circumstantial evidence, admissible in any court of law, to support its conclusion that the Russian military hacked the DNC emails.
You are a lying piece of crap. Crowdstrike admitted under oath they had no evidence. This has been pointed out to you countless times.
From the link below:
"CrowdStrike, the private cyber-security firm that first accused Russia of hacking Democratic Party emails and served as a critical source for U.S. intelligence officials in the years-long Trump-Russia probe, ackno ...[text shortened]... dden_over_2_years_dem_cyber-firms_sworn_testimony_it_had_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc_123596.html
Your evidence that Seth Rich stole them? Nonexistent.
You've lied about this for over 5 years on this Forum; it's way past time you came clean.
07 Nov 22
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@no1marauder saidOnce again, what part of "no evidence" do you not understand?
The same old BS which the link I provided you debunked. You're using the weasel word "concrete" in front of "evidence" to try to ignore that Crowdstrike has ample circumstantial evidence, admissible in any court of law, to support its conclusion that the Russian military hacked the DNC emails.
Your evidence that Seth Rich stole them? Nonexistent.
You've lied about this for over 5 years on this Forum; it's way past time you came clean.
You are a liar. You know you are a liar. "no evidence" is an exact quote from the crowdstrike president under oath. Explain to us all how "no evidence" and circumstantial evidence" are both compatible and not contradictory?
Crowdstrike lied and had to make excuses for their contradictions. They said they had evidence until they were under other and under threat of perjury. Then they said they had "no evidence" and tried to back peddle to justify the contradiction. Now you are trying to use the same BS justification.
No evidence while having circumstantial evidence is a clear contradiction and you know it. You need to resolve that contradiction instead of condoning it. Until you do you will always make a fool of yourself.
Your evidence that Russia hacked them them? Nonexistent and you know it.
07 Nov 22
@no1marauder saidAssange said it was not Russia and strongly implied it was Seth Rich. That is circumstantial evidence.
The same old BS which the link I provided you debunked. You're using the weasel word "concrete" in front of "evidence" to try to ignore that Crowdstrike has ample circumstantial evidence, admissible in any court of law, to support its conclusion that the Russian military hacked the DNC emails.
Your evidence that Seth Rich stole them? Nonexistent.
You've lied about this for over 5 years on this Forum; it's way past time you came clean.
08 Nov 22
@no1marauder saidYour evidence that Russia hacked them? Nonexistent.
The same old BS which the link I provided you debunked. You're using the weasel word "concrete" in front of "evidence" to try to ignore that Crowdstrike has ample circumstantial evidence, admissible in any court of law, to support its conclusion that the Russian military hacked the DNC emails.
Your evidence that Seth Rich stole them? Nonexistent.
You've lied about this for over 5 years on this Forum; it's way past time you came clean.