Originally posted by der schwarze RitterI realize it's beyond your capacity to grasp this, but the fact that Canada has had a similar trend in crime rates (over the last 40 years) as the US while imprisoning at a much lower rate, refutes the right wing thesis that more imprisonment = lower crime rate.
And that my friend, is why Canada will never be a great country: it mollycoddles its criminals.
It is a perverse "measure of greatness" for a country to imprison its people at the highest rate possible. By this measure, Stalin's Soviet Union with its vast Gulag must have been super.
Originally posted by no1marauderUsing DSR's own statistics to disprove his foolish claims has, in the past, done nothing to curb
I realize it's beyond your capacity to grasp this, but the fact that Canada has had a similar trend in crime rates (over the last 40 years) as the US while imprisoning at a much lower rate, refutes the right wing thesis that more imprisonment = lower crime rate.
It is a perverse "measure of greatness" for a country to imprison its people at t ...[text shortened]... e possible. By this measure, Stalin's Soviet Union with its vast Gulag must have been super.
his jingoistic xenophobia.
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Originally posted by no1maraudergood idea ... they must have loads of empty prisons out east ... we'll ship the perps over there!
I realize it's beyond your capacity to grasp this, but the fact that Canada has had a similar trend in crime rates (over the last 40 years) as the US while imprisoning at a much lower rate, refutes the right wing thesis that more imprisonment = lower crime rate.
It is a perverse "measure of greatness" for a country to imprison its people at t ...[text shortened]... e possible. By this measure, Stalin's Soviet Union with its vast Gulag must have been super.
Originally posted by no1marauderwhat the hell's wrong with you, no1m ... you want us to emulate the racist Canadian justice system? ðŸ˜
I realize it's beyond your capacity to grasp this, but the fact that Canada has had a similar trend in crime rates (over the last 40 years) as the US while imprisoning at a much lower rate, refutes the right wing thesis that more imprisonment = lower crime rate.
It is a perverse "measure of greatness" for a country to imprison its people at t ...[text shortened]... e possible. By this measure, Stalin's Soviet Union with its vast Gulag must have been super.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada
Racial factors
Although aboriginal persons make up 3.6% of Canada's population, they account for more than 20% of Canada's prison population. The prevalance of aboriginal persons incarcerated in Canada is thus 3x the number per capita of incarcerated African-Americans in the United States of America. [14]
ho! the game's afoot!
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/hosb1203.pdf
(resorted by "Overall"; zb)
Table 2 Victimisation risk
Percentage victim once or more in 1999
Country Overall Contact crime(1) Theft of a car Burglary (inc. attempts)
Australia 30 4.1 2.1 6.6
England & Wales 26 3.6 2.6 5.2
Sweden 25 2.2 1.6 2.3
Netherlands 25 2 0.5 3.6
Canada 24 3.4 1.6 4.4
Scotland 23 3.4 1.0 3.2
Denmark 23 2.3 1.4 4.2
Poland 23 2.8 1.7 3.1
France 21 2.2 1.9 2.3
U.S.A 21 1.9 0.5 3.8
Belgium 21 1.8 0.8 4.1
Finland 19 3.2 0.5 1.2
Spain 19 1.5 0.5 1.9
Switzerland 18 2.1 0.4 2.7
Northern Ireland 15 2.4 1.5 2.5
Portugal 15 1.4 1.2 2.5
Japan 15 0.4 0.1 1.8
(1) Robbery, assaults with force and sexual assaults
(against women only).
Source: Criminal Victimisation in 17 Industrialised
Countries: Key findings from the 2000 International Crime
Victims Survey (Wetenschappelijk Onderzoek- en
Documentatiecentrum, The Netherlands).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7366258.stm
Jails 'too comfy' to merit escape
Prisoners were too comfortable to want to escape, Mr Travis said
Inmates are so comfortable in jail that they do not want to escape, a prison officer union leader says.
Glyn Travis of the Prison Officers Association says inmates are happy to stay inside because they can get hold of drugs, mobile phones and even sex.
He said a dealer regularly broke into a Yorkshire prison by using a ladder to enter cell windows - but no inmate used the ladder as a means of escape.
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Mr Travis blamed a shortage of prison officers and relaxed regimes, where prisoners enjoyed satellite television and video game consoles.
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"Drugs are coming into prisons at a rate that's so dramatic that drugs in prison are actually cheaper than on the outside," he added.
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In Sudbury prison in Derbyshire he said there was even an attempt to smuggle in prostitutes.
Originally posted by zeeblebot"As one might expect, a good case can be made that fewer Americans are now being victimized"
""As one might expect, a good case can be made that fewer Americans are now being victimized" thanks to the tougher crime policies, Paul Cassell, an authority on sentencing and a former federal judge, wrote in The Stanford Law Review.
From 1981 to 1996, according to Justice Department statistics, the risk of punishment rose in the United States and fell ...[text shortened]... bly moved in the opposite directions, falling in the United States and rising in England.
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Except for the drug users, prostitutes, gamblers, etc whose inalienable rights are being suppressed by the legal system.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterHow come crime rates in civilised Europe are so much lower than in the US and Britain?
I guess someone has to be the adult and do what needs to be done when it needs to be done instead of mollycoddling criminals, deviants, social misfits and misanthropes:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/23/america/23prison.php
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lancashire/7321643.stm
"Now the 52-year-old is questioning her role working with young offenders at youth advisory care service Connexions.
She said: "I've always cared passionately about trying to help young people like them [Herbert and Harris] to find a way out of the cycle of violence and crime a lot of them have grown up with, but I don't know if I can continue.
"To do that job, you have to be totally non-judgmental.
"Now, I don't know if after losing my daughter in such a senseless way, I can look them in the eye and bring myself to feel enough sympathy and understanding for them.
"I just don't know how I feel to be honest."
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