RFK jr. for president

@no1marauder said
He'll take most of his 1% or less of the vote from Trump, not Biden. He's far more popular with Republicans than Democrats.

Are you sure about that?
Both JFK and his father were democrats.

@metal-brain said
Are you sure about that?
Both JFK and his father were democrats.

Yes. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/rfk-jr-democrat-republican-primary-favorability/

@no1marauder said
Yes. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/rfk-jr-democrat-republican-primary-favorability/

That is the democrat party which he might leave. 2 out of 3 people do not want Biden. This is about who would benefit from him running as an independent or 3rd party candidate, not how he would do in the democrat party primary. You are living in the past.

@metal-brain said
That is the democrat party which he might leave. 2 out of 3 people do not want Biden. This is about who would benefit from him running as an independent or 3rd party candidate, not how he would do in the democrat party primary. You are living in the past.

And you're not living in reality. He has little support among Democrats and Republicans think far more favorably of him. To the extent he draws any votes, the overwhelming probability is it will be from those who think favorably of him, not those who don't.

@metal-brain said
Are you sure about that?
Both JFK and his father were democrats.

So was Trump. So what?

@no1marauder said
And you're not living in reality. He has little support among Democrats and Republicans think far more favorably of him. To the extent he draws any votes, the overwhelming probability is it will be from those who think favorably of him, not those who don't.

Once again, you are assuming the polls will not change.

Trump came up with operation warp speed. Trump is pro vaxx. Trump was in the pockets of big pharma. He can say he is anti mandate all he wants. People remember being under lock down while Trump was president. Trump is a phony liar.

One of the big advantages Kennedy has is he has not been POTUS yet. Biden and Trump are both handicapped in that way. People remember what they both did while in power.

@metal-brain said
Once again, you are assuming the polls will not change.

Trump came up with operation warp speed. Trump is pro vaxx. Trump was in the pockets of big pharma. He can say he is anti mandate all he wants. People remember being under lock down while Trump was president. Trump is a phony liar.

One of the big advantages Kennedy has is he has not been POTUS yet. Biden and Trump are both handicapped in that way. People remember what they both did while in power.

Since anti-vaxx and COVID denying/minimizing views are much more prevalent among Republicans than Democrats, you're just supporting my point.

@no1marauder said
Since anti-vaxx and COVID denying/minimizing views are much more prevalent among Republicans than Democrats, you're just supporting my point.

Kennedy is not anti vaccine as you have been told countless times. Was Ralph Nader anti automobile?
Do you think democrats can maintain denial of facts for another year? Kennedy is the only one telling the truth.

@metal-brain said
Kennedy is not anti vaccine as you have been told countless times. Was Ralph Nader anti automobile?
Do you think democrats can maintain denial of facts for another year? Kennedy is the only one telling the truth.

I think most Democrats aren't gullible fools like you are.

RFK, Jr. is a fringe candidate with little support; if he runs as a 3rd party or independent candidate he might (or might not) get 1% of the vote.

@no1marauder said
I think most Democrats aren't gullible fools like you are.

RFK, Jr. is a fringe candidate with little support; if he runs as a 3rd party or independent candidate he might (or might not) get 1% of the vote.

So only fools believe the truth over false narratives?
He has the support a Kennedy can expect, a lot more than 1%.

Remember when you supported gene vaccine mandates? It was all based on lies. Even your false claim that they slowed the spread could not possibly save lives since all the health officials said everyone would get it sooner or later. The gene vaccines were available.

You were lied to and you still will not accept you were bamboozled. Not all democrats will be in denial like you by the time the General Election comes around. They may resent being proven wrong for a few months, but most of them will accept they were lied to by then.

@metal-brain said
So only fools believe the truth over false narratives?
He has the support a Kennedy can expect, a lot more than 1%.

Remember when you supported gene vaccine mandates? It was all based on lies. Even your false claim that they slowed the spread could not possibly save lives since all the health officials said everyone would get it sooner or later. The gene vaccines wer ...[text shortened]... resent being proven wrong for a few months, but most of them will accept they were lied to by then.

I wasted three years refuting your ridiculous "theories" regarding COVID and the vaccines; I have no intention of wasting any further time on them.

The more voters hear from RFK, Jr. the less they like him. He was polling around 20% among likely Democratic primary voters in June; that's down to about 11% now and sinking.https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/24_democratic_presidential_nomination-8171.html

@metal-brain said
So only fools believe the truth over false narratives?

No, stupid. Only fools (like you) believe false narratives over the truth.

This is your M.O. You always, always, always come down on the wrong side of any argument.

@metal-brain said
That is because you do not want to believe vaccines cause autism.
Hannah Poling. The vaccine court paid out to her family for the autism she got after being vaccinated. The vaccine court paid for Hannah Poling's autism. All the word play in the world will not change that fact.

Vaccines don't cause autism.

The case was obviously a settlement because they probably didn't want to hear the same case for the ten millionth time. This is Donald Trump's secret. Wear them down.

@no1marauder said
I wasted three years refuting your ridiculous "theories" regarding COVID and the vaccines; I have no intention of wasting any further time on them.

The more voters hear from RFK, Jr. the less they like him. He was polling around 20% among likely Democratic primary voters in June; that's down to about 11% now and sinking.https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/24_democratic_presidential_nomination-8171.html

You wasted three years defending lies from Fauci because you could not admit he lied to you. Then along comes Kennedy, me and others to tell you the truth and you refused to believe it. First you said the gene vaccines would prevent people from spreading it and you were proven wrong. Then you changed your story and said they slowed the spread. Even if that were true it would not prevent anybody from getting it, so now you justify mandates saying it would help prevent people from being hospitalized. But you have no sympathy for those that are hospitalized because they did not take the clot shot, but you care enough about them to pretend to have sympathy for the unvaccinated. You want to save them from themselves even though you don't think they deserve it.

I think you are confused. Do you care about the unvaccinated or not? You claim to want to save them from themselves, but you have nothing but contempt for them because of it. Is there a way to make sense of your madness?

@suzianne said
Vaccines don't cause autism.

The case was obviously a settlement because they probably didn't want to hear the same case for the ten millionth time. This is Donald Trump's secret. Wear them down.

You are wrong.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/

The vaccine court doled out 1.5 million because a vaccine caused Hannah Poling to get autism. If it didn't cause autism they would not have doled out all of that money. If they did it would be fraud. Vaccine court is supposed to give money away for vaccine injuries, not unrelated injuries.

The Hannah Poling case proves you wrong. Causing autism and autism resulting from vaccines is the same damn thing. All the word play in the world will not change that.