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@metal-brain said
If lying is the best the covid cult has to attack Kennedy you have already lost.
He is not anti vaccine and never was. He has never denied covid. Your lies are laughable though. How do you think lies like that will go over in the debates?

You are like the person that pulled the fire alarm as Kennedy started talking about the military industrial complex. You just hate the truth.
BS. For almost 20 years, he has parroted the false claim that certain vaccines cause autism:

"Kennedy has become a hero of the anti-vax crowd with his persistent claims that vaccines contain deadly ingredients, particularly a mercury-based preservative known as thimerosal, and that they are linked to autism.

He is wrong on both scores. No vaccines except some formulations of the flu vaccine contain thimerosal, and the type of mercury it uses is ethylmercury, which is cleared from the body quickly and harmlessly. And vaccines do not cause—and are not even associated with—autism. Full stop."

https://time.com/5585702/robert-kennedy-vaccines/

And he has claimed the COVID vaccines are completely useless and deadly:

" The other problem with Moderna vaccine: There's no evidence that it prevents death. That's really a tough argument for efficacy. There's no evidence that it prevents transmission. If it doesn't prevent death—that was the original endpoint for the study. It changed the endpoints."

"Q: Given your view, would you advise your own mother to get the vaccine?

RFK, Jr.: The Pfizer or the Moderna vaccine? No, absolutely not."

https://www.newsweek.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr-vaccines-covid-dr-fauci-i-read-science-1572688

Who's lying, MB?

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@no1marauder said
OK, you like bets, I'll propose one:

IF RFK, Jr. wins the Democratic nomination for President in 2024, I'll never make another post in RHP Debates Forum.

IF Joe Biden wins the Democratic nomination for President in 2024, you'll never make another post in RHP Debates Forum.

Fair enough? No evading by creating another username either.
Too difficult to enforce and it would be like superman not having Lex Luthor to battle. Not much fun in that. I prefer the usual terms.

If I win you create a thread called "metal brain was right and I was wrong" and briefly explain why. If you win I will do the same for you.

You should openly support Kennedy. Even if Biden wins the nomination you will get a republican as POTUS as a result. Kennedy is the only democrat that has a chance of being POTUS after the 2024 general election. Would you rather have a republican than Kennedy?

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@no1marauder said
BS. For almost 20 years, he has parroted the false claim that certain vaccines cause autism:

"Kennedy has become a hero of the anti-vax crowd with his persistent claims that vaccines contain deadly ingredients, particularly a mercury-based preservative known as thimerosal, and that they are linked to autism.

He is wrong on both scores. No vaccines except some formul ...[text shortened]... .newsweek.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr-vaccines-covid-dr-fauci-i-read-science-1572688

Who's lying, MB?
Certain vaccines cause autism. We have been over this before. This is another classic case of your denial. The mercury-based preservative known as thimerosal is a known neural toxin. Wanting vaccines to be safer does not make anybody an anti-vaxxer. That is like saying Ralph Nader was anti-automobile for wanting seat belts in your car.

The covid gene vaccines kill more people than any vaccine in recent history. They more than likely kill more people than covid does. VAERS data proves it.

Who is in denial no1? You have a problem with the truth. I can onlly hope Biden will attack Kennedy with lies the same way you have. It will be the end of Biden.

“It’s Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain

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@metal-brain said
Too difficult to enforce and it would be like superman not having Lex Luthor to battle. Not much fun in that. I prefer the usual terms.

If I win you create a thread called "metal brain was right and I was wrong" and briefly explain why. If you win I will do the same for you.

You should openly support Kennedy. Even if Biden wins the nomination you will get a republ ...[text shortened]... nce of being POTUS after the 2024 general election. Would you rather have a republican than Kennedy?
That bet is too lame. No thanks.

In the incredibly remote chance that RFK, Jr. won the Democratic nomination, there'd almost certainly be a substantial, well known progressive third party candidate. That would mean he'd have zero chance and that would be fine with me.

Right now, Biden is the nadir of his popularity but he's still running neck and neck with Trump and DeSantis. No first term President has lost re-election in my lifetime when they have ran absent an economic collapse. That seems most unlikely now so Biden, for all his many faults, is still the odds on favorite if he runs and his health holds up.

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@metal-brain said
Certain vaccines cause autism. We have been over this before. This is another classic case of your denial. The mercury-based preservative known as thimerosal is a known neural toxin. Wanting vaccines to be safer does not make anybody an anti-vaxxer. That is like saying Ralph Nader was anti-automobile for wanting seat belts in your car.

The covid gene vaccines kill mor ...[text shortened]...

“It’s Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain
I've already told you I am not going to debunk this BS for the thousandth time here.

The fact is Democrats aren't buying it and won't. And a candidate who is making that the linchpin of his campaign has zero chance among the Democratic electorate.

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@no1marauder said
That bet is too lame. No thanks.

In the incredibly remote chance that RFK, Jr. won the Democratic nomination, there'd almost certainly be a substantial, well known progressive third party candidate. That would mean he'd have zero chance and that would be fine with me.

Right now, Biden is the nadir of his popularity but he's still running neck and neck with Trump and ...[text shortened]... so Biden, for all his many faults, is still the odds on favorite if he runs and his health holds up.
GHW Bush lost reelection. Were you born before that?

Would you take the most dangerous vaccine known to man in history? If you were to answer no would I be justified in calling you an anti-vaxxer? You need to tame down your rhetoric.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-most-dangerous-vaccine/

"In the incredibly remote chance that RFK, Jr. won the Democratic nomination, there'd almost certainly be a substantial, well known progressive third party candidate. That would mean he'd have zero chance and that would be fine with me. "

If I am wrong and Kennedy were to lose the democrat nomination he might run as an independent candidate. Have you considered that possibility? Who do you think he would suck the most votes from?

The establishment has a long history of suppressing 3rd party candidates.

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@metal-brain said
GHW Bush lost reelection. Were you born before that?

Would you take the most dangerous vaccine known to man in history? If you were to answer no would I be justified in calling you an anti-vaxxer? You need to tame down your rhetoric.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-most-dangerous-vaccine/

"In the incredibly remote chance that RFK, Jr. won the Democratic nominat ...[text shortened]... ck the most votes from?

The establishment has a long history of suppressing 3rd party candidates.
"The United States entered recession in 1990, which lasted 8 months through March 1991.[1] Although the recession was mild relative to other post-war recessions,[2] it was characterized by a sluggish employment recovery, most commonly referred to as a jobless recovery. Unemployment continued to rise through June 1992, even though a positive economic growth rate had returned the previous year.[3][4]

Belated recovery from the 1990–1991 recession contributed to Bill Clinton's victory in the 1992 presidential election."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_1990s_recession_in_the_United_States

RFK, Jr. would get hardly any votes in a 3rd party run, but who's most likely to side with his COVID denying and anti-vaxx positions?

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@no1marauder said
"The United States entered recession in 1990, which lasted 8 months through March 1991.[1] Although the recession was mild relative to other post-war recessions,[2] it was characterized by a sluggish employment recovery, most commonly referred to as a jobless recovery. Unemployment continued to rise through June 1992, even though a positive economic growth rate had return ...[text shortened]... es in a 3rd party run, but who's most likely to side with his COVID denying and anti-vaxx positions?
LOL. A recession is an economic collapse? Hardly.
We are entering a recession now. Biden will not get another term.

https://schiffgold.com/interviews/peter-schiff-the-recession-is-already-here-and-it-wont-be-mild/

"RFK, Jr. would get hardly any votes in a 3rd party run, but who's most likely to side with his COVID denying and anti-vaxx positions?"

Stop your pathetic lying. Kennedy NEVER denied covid and he is not an anti-vaxxer. Is Ralph Nader anti-automobile because he said they were unsafe at any speed?
Fact is, you are just as much an anti-vaxxer as anyone. You would not knowingly take an unsafe vaccine and you know it. You are also conflating independent candidates with 3rd party candidates. Independents do not run in a political party.


Don't put all your eggs in one basket. If you do not accept Kennedy you will get a republican in the end. Is that what you want?

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@metal-brain said
LOL. A recession is an economic collapse? Hardly.
We are entering a recession now. Biden will not get another term.

https://schiffgold.com/interviews/peter-schiff-the-recession-is-already-here-and-it-wont-be-mild/

"RFK, Jr. would get hardly any votes in a 3rd party run, but who's most likely to side with his COVID denying and anti-vaxx positions?"

Stop your pat ...[text shortened]... ne basket. If you do not accept Kennedy you will get a republican in the end. Is that what you want?
Peter Schiff? LMAO! That article is almost a year old and its predictions have been zero percent accurate.

The US has positive growth and extremely low unemployment. That is not a recession no matter what the right wing propagandists tell you.

He told people NOT to get the COVID vaccine, but he's not an "anti-vaxxer"? Be serious. How do you think that advice is going to play to a constituency that is over 90% vaccinated?

To be honest, I would prefer a Republican to RFK, Jr. destroying the Democratic Party (though I wouldn't vote for either).

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@no1marauder said
Peter Schiff? LMAO! That article is almost a year old and its predictions have been zero percent accurate.

The US has positive growth and extremely low unemployment. That is not a recession no matter what the right wing propagandists tell you.

He told people NOT to get the COVID vaccine, but he's not an "anti-vaxxer"? Be serious. How do you think that advice is goin ...[text shortened]... prefer a Republican to RFK, Jr. destroying the Democratic Party (though I wouldn't vote for either).
"He told people NOT to get the COVID vaccine, but he's not an "anti-vaxxer"? Be serious. How do you think that advice is going to play to a constituency that is over 90% vaccinated?"

The covid vaccine is a gene vaccine using gene therapy technology and it is not safe and VAERS data proves that. Would you knowingly take an unsafe vaccine? Yes or no?

Schiff predicted the 2008 financial crisis so you are spreading misinformation again. I accidentally posted the wrong article. Here is a recent article from Schiff:

https://schiffgold.com/peters-podcast/peter-schiff-the-2023-financial-crisis-has-begun/

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@no1marauder said

To be honest, I would prefer a Republican to RFK, Jr. destroying the Democratic Party (though I wouldn't vote for either).
No Libertarian would vote for any major party in any country.

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@metal-brain said
Too difficult to enforce and it would be like superman not having Lex Luthor to battle. Not much fun in that. I prefer the usual terms.

If I win you create a thread called "metal brain was right and I was wrong" and briefly explain why. If you win I will do the same for you.

You should openly support Kennedy. Even if Biden wins the nomination you will get a republ ...[text shortened]... nce of being POTUS after the 2024 general election. Would you rather have a republican than Kennedy?
This is facetious at best.

RFK Jr doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the primary, much less the general.

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@wajoma said
You've included quotation marks suzi. Who are you quoting?

Do you understand what it means to quote a person.
Not asking a pinhead for grammar advice, sorry.

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@metal-brain said
Certain vaccines cause autism. We have been over this before. This is another classic case of your denial. The mercury-based preservative known as thimerosal is a known neural toxin. Wanting vaccines to be safer does not make anybody an anti-vaxxer. That is like saying Ralph Nader was anti-automobile for wanting seat belts in your car.

The covid gene vaccines kill mor ...[text shortened]...

“It’s Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain
You really should go on the road with this comedy act.

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@suzianne said
This is facetious at best.

RFK Jr doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the primary, much less the general.
Care to make a bet on it?

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