03 Oct 22
@shavixmir said"99% of the population in 1 region voted to be part of Russia."
Well, according to your article, some of these international observers are on a fake list.
And some of their quotes didn’t seem very objective.
99% of the population in 1 region voted to be part of Russia.
That is the true signal that something’s not right.
And the images of armed soldiers guiding people to place their votes in a see-through container doesn’t help e ...[text shortened]... he US or returns to Italy’s control (because of Maffia connections and lots of people eating pizza).
I don't believe that. Now sonhouse is parroting your misinformation.
What is your source of information?
03 Oct 22
@sonhouse saidPost the link
@Metal-Brain
Aljeezera:
"Luhansk authorities said 98.4 percent of people there had voted to join Russia. In Zaporizhia, a Russian-appointed official put the figure at 93.1 percent. In Kherson, the head of the voting committee said the “yes” vote was above 87 percent.
Denis Pushilin, head of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, said 99.2 percent of participan ...[text shortened]... ur areas, officials said all the ballots had been counted."
Sure, it could happen. In a pigs ASS.
03 Oct 22
@metal-brain saidhttps://www.euronews.com/2022/09/27/occupied-areas-of-ukraine-vote-to-join-russia-in-referendums-branded-a-sham-by-the-west
"99% of the population in 1 region voted to be part of Russia."
I don't believe that. Now sonhouse is parroting your misinformation.
What is your source of information?
For example. They are the official results of the referenda.
03 Oct 22
@shavixmir saidWhy would Russia falsely claim such a high percentage when all they needed was a majority? Do they want people to think they are holding sham elections? Are there any pre referendum polls?
https://www.euronews.com/2022/09/27/occupied-areas-of-ukraine-vote-to-join-russia-in-referendums-branded-a-sham-by-the-west
For example. They are the official results of the referenda.
03 Oct 22
@metal-brain saidYes he always does it this way he’s retardly egotistical enough to rub the victims face in his obvious lies, rather than being smart or strategic about it.
Why would Russia falsely claim such a high percentage when all they needed was a majority? Do they want people to think they are holding sham elections? Are there any pre referendum polls?
The other option is that he wants the sham to be so obvious that he won’t lose so much face when he has to rescind the annexations.
03 Oct 22
@kevcvs57 saidStill making up crap. Putin is very smart and you know it.
Yes he always does it this way he’s retardly egotistical enough to rub the victims face in his obvious lies, rather than being smart or strategic about it.
The other option is that he wants the sham to be so obvious that he won’t lose so much face when he has to rescind the annexations.
Maybe people there just want be part of Russia for stability and safety. They cannot undo the occupation so they are choosing to live with it.
03 Oct 22
@metal-brain saidHahaha I can see why you would think that 😂
Still making up crap. Putin is very smart and you know it.
Maybe people there just want be part of Russia for stability and safety. They cannot undo the occupation so they are choosing to live with it.
@metal-brain said93 to 99% is totally unbelievable.
Still making up crap. Putin is very smart and you know it.
Maybe people there just want be part of Russia for stability and safety. They cannot undo the occupation so they are choosing to live with it.
04 Oct 22
@shavixmir saidWhich is why Russia would not try to convince people of something so unbelievable.
93 to 99% is totally unbelievable.
It defeats the whole purpose of the referendum. Maybe the people just voted for security and stability. That would be completely understandable.
@shavixmir saidThe Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics declared their independence from the government in Kiev in 2014. Pro-Russian separatists in the Donbass have been embroiled in a bloody trench battle with the US-backed government in Kiev since 2014. It is not surprising the people in Donetsk and Lugansk are sick of the US-backed government in Kiev.
93 to 99% is totally unbelievable.
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/09/29/eu-parliamentarian-sanction-vanessa-beeley-donbass-referendums/
Burned alive: How the 2014 Odessa massacre became a turning point for Ukraine
Clashes between opposing activists turned into mass murder. The perpetrators have never been punished.
https://www.rt.com/russia/554860-burned-alive-2014-odessa/
It is believable. The Ukrainian Nazis burned people alive. People tend to frown upon that.
@Metal-Brain
What are you going to do when your boss Putin dies of cancer? He is VERY sick right now and might launch a nuke into Ukraine just for grins.
Will he still be your beloved boss if he does that?
08 Oct 22
@metal-brain saidThey are just incompetent
Why would Russia falsely claim such a high percentage when all they needed was a majority? Do they want people to think they are holding sham elections? Are there any pre referendum polls?
@metal-brain saidIt's not. The US is being hypocritical. But two wrongs don't make a right. I don't care the US doesn't have the moral high ground to stand against Russia's invasion.
@sonhouse
https://www.rt.com/russia/554860-burned-alive-2014-odessa/
The Ukrainian Nazis burned people alive. People tend to frown upon that.
Our government occupies 1/3 of the oil rich part of Syria. How is that any different than what Russia is doing in Ukraine?
And just as a side note, the US didn't commit nearly as many attrocities in 20 years and several wars as Russia did in one year.
@Zahlanzi
And is doing as we speak in Ukraine, bombing MATERNITY hospitals? Or the missile attack on a civilian train station or the orders to rape and pillage and we know of at least one case where the barbarians raped a 1 year old boy to death.
I would LOVE see reports saying the same about the US.
No doubt they will bring up Viet Nam, which everyone knows we should not have been there.