Section 3 of the 14th amendment pursued:

@metal-brain said
He was already charged with those charges during his impeachment trial. He was acquitted so double jeopardy law applies. You cannot prosecute Trump for the same thing twice.

Most of the indictments are unconstitutional under double jeopardy.

The Supreme Court has affirmed “the Double Jeopardy Clause prohibits merely punishing twice, or attempting a second time to p ...[text shortened]... en applied: there is simply no other form of legal redress that is tolerable under the Constitution.

@metal-brain said
Most of the indictments are unconstitutional under double jeopardy. Smith is trying to indict Trump for the same things he was acquitted for in his impeachment trial.

The Supreme Court has affirmed “the Double Jeopardy Clause prohibits merely punishing twice, or attempting a second time to punish criminally, for the same offense.” Helvering v. Mitchell, 303 U.S. 391, 3 ...[text shortened]... of legal redress that is tolerable under the Constitution.

The indictments are unconstitutional.

@no1marauder said
LMAO! You need to read the Constitution;

""No person shall . . . be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb . . . . "

Impeachment is not a criminal proceeding and does not put one in "jeopardy of life or limb".

"In One Lot Emerald Cut Stones v. United States, 409 U.S. 232 (1972), the Supreme Court held, "Congress may impose both a ...[text shortened]... nd subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."

Article I, Section 3

@metal-brain said
Maybe if he was removed from office because of impeachment you could indict him, but he was acquitted.

"No person shall . . . be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb . . . . "

Are you suggesting double jeopardy applies only to acquittals of murder and cutting off body parts?

"but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liabl ...[text shortened]... subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."

He was not convicted.

Alcee Hastings, a Federal Judge, was acquitted of bribery at a criminal trial, but then impeached and convicted and removed from office. https://washingtonmonthly.com/2021/01/26/the-lessons-of-the-alcee-hastings-impeachment/

@no1marauder
Now Trump's mug shot is used by Trump himself in yet another money making scheme, T shirts, mug mug shots, and such.
That mug shot will be with us for centuries.

@no1marauder said
It applies to criminal trials, not impeachment which are civil in nature and where none of the 5th Amendment protections apply.

@no1marauder said
Alcee Hastings, a Federal Judge, was acquitted of bribery at a criminal trial, but then impeached and convicted and removed from office. https://washingtonmonthly.com/2021/01/26/the-lessons-of-the-alcee-hastings-impeachment/

@metal-brain said
That was the other way around. Your example is backwards.

@sonhouse said
@no1marauder
Now Trump's mug shot is used by Trump himself in yet another money making scheme, T shirts, mug mug shots, and such.
That mug shot will be with us for centuries.

@no1marauder said
What difference does that make? It shows that criminal matters and impeachment do not implicate each other for Double Jeopardy purposes.

@metal-brain said
What is your source of information?

@no1marauder said
"The words life or limb are not interpreted strictly; they apply to any criminal penalty ."

https://www.encyclopedia.com/law/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/life-or-limb

Removal from office is not a criminal penalty.

@metal-brain said
What difference does that make?
They are both convictions or acquittals.

Trump was acquitted when impeached. They could have produced the same evidence then that are in the indictments now. Is that an admission that democrats botched the impeachment of Trump because they failed to remove him from office and prevent him from running again?

Removal from office can b ...[text shortened]... ve it during impeachment if it can be done? Explain to me why they failed then, but can succeed now.