06 Jan 09
Originally posted by randolphYou're an idiot. The press invested everything they had in Algore, and then spent 5 months after the election to "prove" that Gore really won Florida.
I love it that conservatives are suddenly all up in arms about fairness of elections. Two stolen presidential elections couldn't do it, but your stooge losing to a comedian could.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2001-04-03-floridamain.htm#more
May 15, 2001
"Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed"
The only person who "cheated" in 2000 was Algore. He tried to disqualify as many military overseas ballots as they could, since they were overwhelmingly for Bush. The Democrats even sent a five page memo to every county elections office in the state, explaining all the ways that Dems could disqualify overseas military ballots. Disgusting.
Re; Minnesota this year, it was obvious that when they started "finding" all these votes for Franken in the trunks of people's cars, that he would, at some point, "win" the recount. It's easier to win a recount when you know how many votes you need to win. Plus, there are 25 counties where they have more votes than there are people who are registered to vote.
Wonder how that happened.
06 Jan 09
Originally posted by sasquatch672I think Franken is far more qualified for public office than Ventura was. He's a smart man. I think he'll make a decent Senator. As for some of the other show-biz politicians, despite my initial skepticism over Schwarzenegger, it seems that he has actually done a decent job. He is now one of the very few Republicans for whom I have any respect. And Reagan...ah, yes, Reagan...I never thought anyone would be able to displace him from being the worst person in the wooooooooorld (as Keith Olberman says), but Bush has done it in spades.
I don't understand the willingness of Minnesotans to completely blow up their own state by electing thoroughly unqualified candidates to high office.
06 Jan 09
Originally posted by TheBloop*sigh*
You're an idiot. The press invested everything they had in Algore, and then spent 5 months after the election to "prove" that Gore really won Florida.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2001-04-03-floridamain.htm#more
May 15, 2001
"Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed"
The only person who "cheated" in 2000 was Algore. He tried to disqua ...[text shortened]... votes than there are people who are registered to vote.
Wonder how that happened.
It was ILLEGAL to include those military ballots that Gore tried to disqualify, as they were postmarked after the deadline. Counting them was committing voter fraud. And that "trunks of people's cars" thing was debunked weeks ago. I recommend that you visit fivethirtyeight.com and read the recent post about the Wall Street Journal editorial.
06 Jan 09
Originally posted by rwingettGotcha!! 😉
They went to that well one too many times. People were on the lookout for Republican shenanigans this time around. All their massive voter disenfranchisement efforts were hotly challenged.
That is until the Republicans win another election that is. 😛
06 Jan 09
Originally posted by rwingettDemocrats and Republicans are equally responsible for screwing the US voter in one way or another. Politics is a nasty and expensive game... everyone stretches the rules for their gain and of course, at times, the rules are broken.
They went to that well one too many times. People were on the lookout for Republican shenanigans this time around. All their massive voter disenfranchisement efforts were hotly challenged.
06 Jan 09
Originally posted by lepomisNo. All Republicans are evil. All Democrats are good. Except for those who commit crimes or those who support Republican nominees.
Democrats and Republicans are equally responsible for screwing the US voter in one way or another. Politics is a nasty and expensive game... everyone stretches the rules for their gain and of course, at times, the rules are broken.
07 Jan 09
Originally posted by whodeyThe Dems and the media that constantly whines about "stolen elections" makes me laugh. The fact is that the Democrats have won every close Senate election in 06 and 08 and there were lots of them. Even in 2000 when Bush "stole" the election, the Dems swept the close Senate races. On 2002 and 2004, it was the GOP who took most of the close races.
It seems that the Republicans forgot how to steal elections like they did with "W". LOL.
The difference is that when the Republicans win close elections, you hear incessant whining from the likes of Michael Moore and Bobby Kennedy Jr. about how the Republicans "steal" elections. When the Dems win close elections, do you hear a peep out of high profile Republicans? No, you do not. Why not? I'm not 100% but my guess is that the Dems' elitist attitude prevents them from fathoming the possibility that anyone would want to vote against them.
The fact is that NONE of these elections were stolen. Not Bush in 2000 or 2004; not Franken or Bechich or Merkley in '08; not McCatskill, Webb or Tester in '06, etc. etc.
So, please everyone stop WHINING when your candidate loses an election. It happens. Get over it!
07 Jan 09
Originally posted by sh76No, that's not true. The Democrats have never lost a free and fair election since 1992. Every time a Republican candidate has "won" since then, at any level of government, has been because they've cheated.
The Dems and the media that constantly whines about "stolen elections" makes me laugh. The fact is that the Democrats have won every close Senate election in 06 and 08 and there were lots of them. Even in 2000 when Bush "stole" the election, the Dems swept the close Senate races. On 2002 and 2004, it was the GOP who took most of the close races.
The differen ...[text shortened]... everyone stop WHINING when your candidate loses an election. It happens. Get over it!
07 Jan 09
Originally posted by randolph*sigh* Federal law does not require a postmark for military mail and specifies that no postage is needed for military absentee ballots. Accordingly, much military mail does not receive a postmark until it reaches the United States, and some is never postmarked at all.
*sigh*
It was ILLEGAL to include those military ballots that Gore tried to disqualify, as they were postmarked after the deadline. Counting them was committing voter fraud. And that "trunks of people's cars" thing was debunked weeks ago. I recommend that you visit fivethirtyeight.com and read the recent post about the Wall Street Journal editorial.
It's just a sick idea for the Democrats to try to target military ballots to throw out. How does someone even THINK of something like that?
It was ILLEGAL for the Florida Supreme Court to re-write election law, which is what they did. They arbitrarily came up with new deadlines when they had no right to do so. The legislature writes election law, period.
That's why the U.S. Supreme court voted 7-2 (not 5-4) to overturn the rouge Florida Court. There are deadlines involved in the election process, and Katherine Harris did EXACTLY what the law said to do.
07 Jan 09
Originally posted by randolphRe: fivethirtyeight.com
*sigh*
It was ILLEGAL to include those military ballots that Gore tried to disqualify, as they were postmarked after the deadline. Counting them was committing voter fraud. And that "trunks of people's cars" thing was debunked weeks ago. I recommend that you visit fivethirtyeight.com and read the recent post about the Wall Street Journal editorial.
"... (Sec of State) Ritchie may be a Democrat, but he was also democratically elected -- lower case 'D' -- by the people of Minnesota.... "
Really? Well, let's make a couple of changes and see how the sentence reads then:
"...(FL Sec of State) Harris may be a Republican, but she was also democratically elected - lower case 'D' - by the people of Florida... "
So when Minnesota's Sec of State certifies Franken the winner, everything's fine, no voter fraud whatsoever...
But when Katherine Harris certified George W. Bush as the winner in Florida, all of sudden, Bush stole the election.... massive voter fraud ...
Jeez, where was fivethirtyeight.com back then when we needed them?
Quote from 538 blogger:
"...There are 25 precincts with more ballots than voters? I'm not sure this is actually true... "
You're not? Then what am I listening to you for? Get back to me when you're sure about it, ok?
He then finishes by quoted the WSJ editorial:
"... Minnesotans like to think that their state isn't like New Jersey or Louisiana, and typically it isn't. But we can't recall a similar recount involving optical scanning machines that has changed so many votes, and in which nearly every crucial decision worked to the advantage of the same candidate. The Coleman campaign clearly misjudged the politics here, and the apparent willingness of a partisan like Mr. Ritchie to help his preferred candidate, Mr. Franken. If the Canvassing Board certifies Mr. Franken as the winner based on the current count, it will be anointing a tainted and undeserving Senator."
The blogger's response is:
"New Jerseyites! Louisianans! Cancel your subscriptions! And the rest of you might as well too."
Gee, great comeback.
07 Jan 09
Originally posted by rwingettHow? Obama will be reelected unless the conditions become ripe for Alaska's governor to win the Presidency. Should that happen...
Maybe it'll be President Franken in 2012. Wouldn't that just give O'Reilly an aneurysm?
Ah, one can dream...
"And the three men I admire the most
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have taken the last train for the coast"