20 Feb 16
Originally posted by FishHead111So the process isn't any different in 2016? I mean, if someone is obese or clearly out of shape, will they still be given a gun? Wouldn't the military weed out who can battle on the front lines during training?
From my experience, during the Vietnam war if a person was drafted they almost always went straight to the infantry or other combat arms designation. Better jobs went to people who enlisted for a longer time and were able to select what MOS they wanted.
I saw some of the squireliest people you can imagine in the infantry, not exactly the pick of the l ...[text shortened]... be for front line combat duty unless they were some kind of freak that wanted to try out for it.
20 Feb 16
Originally posted by vivifyIf anything the entry process has become more stringent.They don't take people that are obese, and to graduate basic training you have to be in good enough shape to pass the physical fitness requirements. .
So the process isn't any different in 2016? I mean, if someone is obese or clearly out of shape, will they still be given a gun? Wouldn't the military weed out who can battle on the front lines during training?
You obviously know nothing about the military.
20 Feb 16
Originally posted by vivify80% of people applying for US military service are currently being turned down, most because they are too fat or too stupid.
So the process isn't any different in 2016? I mean, if someone is obese or clearly out of shape, will they still be given a gun? Wouldn't the military weed out who can battle on the front lines during training?
http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/2014/05/14/80-of-military-recruitments-turned-down.html
20 Feb 16
Originally posted by FishHead111Those that are obese wouldn't survive military training anyway, they'd kill themselves after getting bullied by the drill instructor.
If anything the entry process has become more stringent.They don't take people that are obese, and to graduate basic training you have to be in good enough shape to pass the physical fitness requirements. .
You obviously know nothing about the military.
20 Feb 16
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraWe had some fatties when I was in Army basic 45+ years ago......on forced marches they'd fall out gasping or have heat exhaustion, etc. Some trimmed down and made it, some were cashed out and sent home, some got recycled back to the start of training if they wanted it bad enough and were given extra time to drop the lard.
Those that are obese wouldn't survive military training anyway, they'd kill themselves after getting bullied by the drill instructor.
Army was scraping the bottom of the barrel back then, not like it is today.
(I know, haha, they took me didn't they LOL)
20 Feb 16
Originally posted by FishHead111"You obviously don't know anything about the military"
If anything the entry process has become more stringent.They don't take people that are obese, and to graduate basic training you have to be in good enough shape to pass the physical fitness requirements. .
You obviously know nothing about the military.
Why do you think I asked that question? You brought up military practices in the 60's in response to a topic going on in 2016. The fact that even you acknowledged the process is more stringent makes your irrelevant, which was the point of me asking that question.
20 Feb 16
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Originally posted by FishHead111Thanks again. Your response trying to refute my comment about military standards, which included this:
80% of people applying for US military service are currently being turned down, most because they are too fat or too stupid.
http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/2014/05/14/80-of-military-recruitments-turned-down.html
"I saw some of the squireliest people you can imagine in the infantry, not exactly the pick of the litter."
is now irrelevant.
20 Feb 16
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Originally posted by vivifyTouche..........hoisted on my own petard.
Thanks again. Your response trying to refute my comment about military standards, which included this:
"I saw some of the squireliest people you can imagine in the infantry, not exactly the pick of the litter."
is now irrelevant.
Well it's fun reflecting about this stuff anyway.
Did I mention that 10 years later I went into the Air Force and was a navigator on B-52's?
Qualifications for that were a bit higher, I was surrounded by a much nicer crowd of people.
If you know what I mean, wink wink nudge nudge say no more say no more.
20 Feb 16
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The post that was quoted here has been removedYou say that like it's a bad thing.
Why shouldn't a country be squeamish about sending it's young women off to war and seeing them come back chopped to bits or in body bags like men ?
War is an ugly thing, and traditionally something only expected of men, because we have always allowed women one right,the right of decency. Combat requires many brutal, indecent things to be done, and before we cut into that cake and strip women of their right to remain safe, decent, and wholesome we need to think very hard about what kind of society we are becoming.
I have to get back to writing my book, Left Wing Tards And Why I Hate Them.
20 Feb 16
The post that was quoted here has been removedThere may be a few MOS which are suitable for women, but I suspect not too many in combat. The truth is that not too many men are really suited to that either. Many men refuse to fire their weapons or curl up in a fetal position when faced with combat.
Combat is not a normal activity.