So now R V Wade killed Amber Thurman

@Mott-The-Hoople said
polls can be manipulated, abortions cant

zero critical thinking with you libs

@vivify said
"Can be" manipulated is not the same as "was manipulated". So much for critical thinking skills.

Multiple polls had Kamala ahead with Trump denying reality.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
multiple polls had clinton ahead too

critical thinking is realizing polls can be wrong

@Mott-The-Hoople said
you do realize she died from “complications from an ABORTION “dont you?

@AverageJoe1
Great response, really got down to the marrow there. It would be way too much to ask to have you comment on the actual issue here. Trump, responsible directly for Amber's death.

@Mott-The-Hoople
I said in my last post she took the pill, Nine weeks in. She died BECAUSE of the end of Roe V Wade and THAT is a fact. The docs were deathly afraid of going to jail so they let her die in ER.
There is ZERO rationalizing that, it is 100% on Trump. He is the one who chose SCOUTUS candidates with a specific agenda, kill R V W.
And that is just what he did. You think Scotus should be making laws now? I would have sworn that was up to congress.

@AverageJoe1
Ah, What do YOU call it when the best border bill in fuuking DECADES was killed because Trump didn't want Biden to get ANY credit for helping the border crisis, so you can see Trump could give a rats ass about border issues otherwise there would have been over a THOUSAND new border patrol agents and new judges to try to handle the overload of cases to say yea or nay to asylum seekers and such.
You can thank your orange jesus for that one AND NOBODY ELSE. He alone killed the border bill but you complain daily about the crisis on the border but your buddy Trump doesn't care ANYTHING about that and don't EVEN come back with oh now you know the mind of Trump, that has NOTHING to do with his mind, it has to do with his proven actions.
All it took was a phone call to his crone Mikey Johnson, the squeaker of the house, KILL BILL and OF COURSE, good old Christian nationalist Mikey just falls over and plays dead and so not even DEBATE by the congress was allowed much less an actual vote, it never got even to the stage where a vote would come up.

@sonhouse said
@Mott-The-Hoople
I said in my last post she took the pill, Nine weeks in. She died BECAUSE of the end of Roe V Wade and THAT is a fact. The docs were deathly afraid of going to jail so they let her die in ER.
There is ZERO rationalizing that, it is 100% on Trump. He is the one who chose SCOUTUS candidates with a specific agenda, kill R V W.
And that is just what he did. You think Scotus should be making laws now? I would have sworn that was up to congress.

@Mott-The-Hoople
GEORGIA you assshole. THAT IS WHERE THEY LITERALLY DENIED THE DNC SHE HAD TO HAVE TO ACTULLY STAY ALIVE.
You are one pathetic imitation of an actual human being.
Unable to actually debate what is going on you go WELL, she had an ABORTION,
And of course ALSO you would never even concede a 9 week old fetus would be able to survive if she had to have say a cesarean the fetus would never survive, no brain developed and such so it is literally a growing blob of cells at that point NOT a human being which I have no doubt you would puke out.
The reason ANY abortion of any kind needs a DNC is to remove left over tissue that WILL result in an infection in the uterus which is exactly what happened to her but those spineless doctors just let her die LITERALLY in the ER because of the cruel laws put forth by the ultrarightwingnuts in charge in Georgia.
And there were other AND there will be many more unnecessary deaths because of these 13th century POS draconian laws. Like in Texas where a girl leaves Texas to another state allowing abortion, now she is a criminal BECAUSE she left the state for an abortion in a free state.
Tell me how THAT is a great law, eh?

You POS repubs, I can't even call you republican any more since you are all controlled by Trump and it is LITERALLY now a Trump cult, THAT is what Trump has done to your former republican party, now a Trumpian party, anyway they want to control all aspects of women's lives and would kill the chance for women to vote if they were in total charge, already one of the platforms buried deep inside that OTHER POS platform Project 2025.

So what are your so called leaders saying instead of talking about medical issues or actual border issues, THEY EAT DOGS.
THAT is the kind of BUULLSHYYTE your so called candidate is puking at you EVERY FUUUKING DAY.

And also BTW, we really need a REAL republican party not the POS it has become, to actually debate proposed bills, instead now, whatever a democrat proposes, WHATEVER, if it the price for dog tags, it comes up to a vote, repubs to NO, EVERY SINGLE ONE because now because of Newt Gingrich, democrats are no the ENEMY, not actual American citizens, so the splitting Americans into camps is ALL your pathetic embarrassment of a party does, like FOR INSTANCE, the best border bill in DECADES killed because Trump did not want Biden to get ANY credit for relief of border problems so he goes to his pet Mikey Johnson, the squeaker of the house, KILL BILL, and good old Christian nationalist Johnson goes YES SIR, any others you want killed, and into the trash it goes not even allowing DEBATE on that much needed bill which BTW was BIPARTISIN but does Trump care about that? Not in the fuuking SLIGHTEST. That PROVES he doesn't give a rats ass about border issues. So good luck getting that asssshole to be POTUS again.

@sonhouse said
@Mott-The-Hoople
GEORGIA you assshole. THAT IS WHERE THEY LITERALLY DENIED THE DNC SHE HAD TO HAVE TO ACTULLY STAY ALIVE.
You are one pathetic imitation of an actual human being.
Unable to actually debate what is going on you go WELL, she had an ABORTION,
And of course ALSO you would never even concede a 9 week old fetus would be able to survive if she had to have say a ...[text shortened]... DOGS.
THAT is the kind of BUULLSHYYTE your so called candidate is puking at you EVERY FUUUKING DAY.

@AverageJoe1
Right, you never heard a WORD about Vance and Trump PUKING out, Trump at the fuuuking DEBATE you idiot, THEY EAT DOGS, THEY EAT CATS, THEY EAT PETS, UNFUUKING QUOTE.
I have no doubt you never heard that AND Trump and Vance knew BEFORE the debate that was BS but ran with it BECAUSE they knew their ultrarightwingnut PETS would swallow that POS without a single fact check and now the GOVERNOR, who is REPUB, in Ohio says to Trump DON'T COME HERE and the same thing by the REPUB Mayor of Sprinfield, STAY away and never come here, Trump has already caused LITERAL bomb threats into GRADE SCHOOLS and the Proud boys marching up and down main roads in Springfield specifically to terrify the folks who live there.
There is NO defense for any of that BS puking out of the mouth of Trump and Vance.
And you will vote for him anyway.

@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
Right, you never heard a WORD about Vance and Trump PUKING out, Trump at the fuuuking DEBATE you idiot, THEY EAT DOGS, THEY EAT CATS, THEY EAT PETS, UNFUUKING QUOTE.
I have no doubt you never heard that AND Trump and Vance knew BEFORE the debate that was BS but ran with it BECAUSE they knew their ultrarightwingnut PETS would swallow that POS without a single ...[text shortened]... e for any of that BS puking out of the mouth of Trump and Vance.
And you will vote for him anyway.

@AverageJoe1
You better read the news old man, the Proud boys ARE in Springfield Ohio as we speak riling up the citizens there BECAUSE that utter assshole Vance barfed out they eat dogs.
Then the OTHER assshole Trump runs with it and now his soldiers are right there in Springfield AND BTW, there ARE bomb threats forcing the closure of schools there.
You might want to make a joke out of it but it is not a joke. This is real and is going on right now.

@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
You better read the news old man, the Proud boys ARE in Springfield Ohio as we speak riling up the citizens there BECAUSE that utter assshole Vance barfed out they eat dogs.
Then the OTHER assshole Trump runs with it and now his soldiers are right there in Springfield AND BTW, there ARE bomb threats forcing the closure of schools there.
You might want to make a joke out of it but it is not a joke. This is real and is going on right now.

@sonhouse
The current laws around abortion were written by politicians, not physicians. As a result, the language is medically confusing and doctors do not know what they can and cannot do in life threatening situations. The GOP has refused to allow the medical community to clarify the language so doctors are not put in a situation where they feel they will go to prison if they save a woman's life. Republicans do not care about the life of women or children. If they did, they would vote to provide clear guidelines so women do not die of a miscarriage. They would legislate to provide excellent child care services for working women, paid maternity leave, and maternal/child health care. Also, the quality of public schools would not be based on your zip code with wealthy communities able to tax property at higher levels to fund schools. Rural communities and inner cities are left with significantly less money for education. Also, if the country cared about kids, assault weapons would be banned.