24 Feb 19
@no1marauder saidI think Marauder has a good point... It is doubtful that Bernie Sanders would support tax havens.
Bernie supports that?
Some evidence, please.
However, Metal Brain also has a point... it's very unlikely that any part of Bernie's vision would come into being that didn't provide loopholes or backdoors of some sort that resulted in there being forms of tax havens. Maybe not because of anything that Bernie himself would do, but because it would be very unprecedented for these to not exist in America.
This is an issue even in countries that are regularly thought of as socialist:
Forget François Hollande's famous 75 percent tax on millionaires and the hefty payroll taxes liberal economists say weigh heavy on French companies; for Niel, the French tax man is presiding, in an undemanding manner, over a "paradis fiscal".
Speaking on the television channel BFM TV, the founder of Free – the country’s second biggest internet provider and third largest mobile phone service – reiterated his previous comments that France is the best place in the world to start a business - even better than the US.
"France is a tax haven. If I'm an entrepreneur and I want to pass on my business, in which country will I pay the least taxes? It's France - where there's only a 23 percent tax on capital gains if I hold on to my company for more than eight years and a five to seven percent tax if I want to pass on my business to my children.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20141104/france-is-a-tax-haven-says-french-billionaire
Which is funny because they manage to provide socialized health care and tax havens. But I have zero idea about the fiscal standing of France and any debt issues that they may have.
25 Feb 19
@js357 saidYou are as paranoid as kazet. You seem crazy for saying that.
@Metal-Brain
I think the Russians send their beginners to this forum.
25 Feb 19
@metal-brain saidThat you are parroting Kremlin talking points isn't a conspiracy theory - you're quite open about it yourself, and as far as I can tell, you're not even getting paid for it.
You are so childish. You are now including me in your conspiracy theories? Am I advising Trump as well in your paranoid mind?
@kazetnagorra saidOpen about what? This thread is about tax havens under socialism. What does that have to do with the Kremlin? Is it because I posted an RT article? Would it help if I posted the same thing from a different source?
That you are parroting Kremlin talking points isn't a conspiracy theory - you're quite open about it yourself, and as far as I can tell, you're not even getting paid for it.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article226732089.html
There you go mentally unstable man. Take your paranoia somewhere else.
25 Feb 19
@philokalia said2 have accused me of it on this thread alone, merely because I posted an RT article. Leftists have been brainwashed into thinking if RT does what everybody else does it is nefarious. In other words, they have been duped into thinking free speech is only for Americans and not Russians. Meanwhile BBC News (a foreign news agency) is allowed to broadcast on PBS.
Wait, are people seriously suggesting that there are paid Russian writers here trying to spread disinformation?
I am curious. Because... I guess that'd make a really interesting conversation, lol.
So what we have here are paranoid leftists who have no problem with foreign news agencies influencing Americans except Russia. See how stupid they are? Double standards are normal for them. They have no ability to see the flaws in their own assertions. They have lost grip on reality.
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@philokalia saidBeginners wouldn’t be paid. They’d be auditioning on backwater forums like this one. And maybe unknowingly. Those would be the best ones to cultivate. After all, if the Russians ARE up to no good, cultivating and manipulating unknowing “agents” would be hard to detect, and cheap. Then the question isn’t whether you’re paranoid, it’s whether you’re paranoid enough.
Wait, are people seriously suggesting that there are paid Russian writers here trying to spread disinformation?
I am curious. Because... I guess that'd make a really interesting conversation, lol.
Me? I’m just playing with the idea. If I’m getting too close, the Russians will take care of me.
25 Feb 19
@metal-brain saidLiterally nobody here suggested you are a paid Russian troll. You just happen to do their bidding.
2 have accused me of it on this thread alone, merely because I posted an RT article. Leftists have been brainwashed into thinking if RT does what everybody else does it is nefarious. In other words, they have been duped into thinking free speech is only for Americans and not Russians. Meanwhile BBC News (a foreign news agency) is allowed to broadcast on PBS.
So what w ...[text shortened]... them. They have no ability to see the flaws in their own assertions. They have lost grip on reality.
25 Feb 19
@kazetnagorra saidas is the majority MSM
Literally nobody here suggested you are a paid Russian troll. You just happen to do their bidding.
25 Feb 19
@kazetnagorra saidThis is what you said:
Literally nobody here suggested you are a paid Russian troll. You just happen to do their bidding.
"If Sanders loses the Democratic primary, no doubt Metal Brain will switch to pro-Sanders messages as his Kremlin puppet masters wish."
Nobody mentioned "paid" except you just now. I certainly never suggested it. You did say I was a puppet of the Kremlin. That suggests they control me. You are the lying liar.
@metal-brain saidThey do control you, or you wouldn't be defecating Kremlin propaganda across these forums.
This is what you said:
"If Sanders loses the Democratic primary, no doubt Metal Brain will switch to pro-Sanders messages as his Kremlin puppet masters wish."
Nobody mentioned "paid" except you just now. I certainly never suggested it. You did say I was a puppet of the Kremlin. That suggests they control me. You are the lying liar.
26 Feb 19
@kazetnagorra saidMy opinions prove I am controlled? Then everyone is controlled.
They do control you, or you wouldn't be defecating Kremlin propaganda across these forums.
@metal-brain saidNot everyone is parroting Kremlin talking points on these forums.
My opinions prove I am controlled? Then everyone is controlled.