04 Aug 09
Originally posted by whodeyMaybe there needs to be more public discussion on exactly what level of healthcare everyone should have a right to - and what care should be dependent on an individual's ability to pay.
So what do you define as a right in terms of health care? Do you think that the nice little package the elitists in Washington have set up for themselves that no one else has access to should also be our right or should we settle for what they want us to have? The bottom line is, if this passes and someone gets cancer and can't get in to see their doctor fo ...[text shortened]... ed faster and more aggressive that his chances of survival increased. In fact, he is fine now.
04 Aug 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraHere's a good articles as to why. In addition to demographic differences (US has a much higher percentage of elderly below the poverty line) there's also mismanagement by the US. Basically instead of keeping SS separate and managing it like a pension fund, US polticians just saw too much money to resist spending it and ignore managing it.
Canada has much more social security and seems to have little problems paying for it.
http://www.wilsoncenter.org/index.cfm?topic_id=1420&categoryid=D7F83D30-D026-F831-7C3F92B67772ACFA&fuseaction=topics.events_item_topics&event_id=394186
Also the realtive size differences. the Candian system is much smaller. The monthly payments to an individual in Canada are less than in the US. In the US most recipients will get between $900-1,300 a month and according to this article in Canada the Old Age Security payment maxes out at $479.83 with a supplement for the poor between #370 and $570. Which is taxed back at the rate of %50.
http://healthcare-economist.com/2009/03/03/canadian-social-security-and-well-being/
04 Aug 09
Originally posted by MerkExactly, so the problem isn't social security. It's the way social security is run. If anything, it should be expanded in the US, I'm sure the US economy would get a massive boost if it adopted the Nordic model.
Here's a good articles as to why. In addition to demographic differences (US has a much higher percentage of elderly below the poverty line) there's also mismanagement by the US. Basically instead of keeping SS separate and managing it like a pension fund, US polticians just saw too much money to resist spending it and ignore managing it.
http://www.wilsonce ...[text shortened]... of %50.
http://healthcare-economist.com/2009/03/03/canadian-social-security-and-well-being/
I don't see why relative size differences would matter.
04 Aug 09
Originally posted by MelanerpesBut there is no time man we need to pass this ASAP!!
Maybe there needs to be more public discussion on exactly what level of healthcare everyone should have a right to - and what care should be dependent on an individual's ability to pay.
04 Aug 09
KN and the other busybodies want you to pay for the likes of this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1202767/I-afford-live-healthily-says-600-month-benefits-woman-lost-weight-free-gastric-band-surgery.html
...so that crime will go down. I believe taking money from just one person who disagrees with supporting this slug is the true crime.
04 Aug 09
Originally posted by WajomaAnd once again you reveal the core of your ideology - spite.
KN and the other busybodies want you to pay for the likes of this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1202767/I-afford-live-healthily-says-600-month-benefits-woman-lost-weight-free-gastric-band-surgery.html
...so that crime will go down. I believe taking money from just one person who disagrees with supporting this slug is the true crime.
04 Aug 09
Originally posted by whodeyA tripple byass surgery in India is 16,000 dollars compared to 275,000 in the United States.
I would be working to keep costs down rather than having the government take over everything. It seems to me that the government has more on its plate than it can handle currently. For example, perhaps some attention could be paid in regards to the legal system keeping costs elevated, such as the cost of malpractice insureance etc. However, the guys who a ...[text shortened]... o help the poor but at the same time they are not my task master, or at least, should not be.
05 Aug 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraI don't feel like a slave to a corporation.
By being a slave of corporations.
Of which corporation am I a slave?
I'm certainly not a slave to my insurance company. I just dumped one health insurance company and picked up a new plan with a different company. As soon as I don't like their service or think there's a better plan out there, I'll do the same to them.
If anything, my insurance company is my slave.