03 Jul 22
@vivify saidThe story makes no sense except the SS agents telling Trump they would stay on path. Taking a sudden different path would probably violate security protocol. You need to realize the SS scout the path to destination for anything out of the ordinary and they have vehicles all along that route.
The thread is about the agents' possible history of lying, it's not about "assuming".
Based on who Trump surrounds himself with who have either been convicted of lying to the FBI to protect Trump, lost their legal licenses for lying to protect him, Trump picks who lied under oath during Senate hearings or lied to the American people on live TV like Barr with the Mueller r ...[text shortened]...
Get the point? There's a credibility issue when it comes to people who work for or defend Trump.
It makes much more sense that the SS told Trump they needed to stay on course for security reasons.
@no1marauder saidthe “committee” will never subpoena them…the “committee” has complete control over what the public hears.
Let's wait and see if and what Ornato, Engel and any other Secret Service agents with knowledge of the incident have to say under oath before assuming anyone is "lying".
03 Jul 22
@no1marauder saidhow do you know Trump hasnt pardoned them?
Some people who worked for Trump lied, others didn't. It would be more perilous now to do so since Trump can't pardon them as he did so many other liars during his term.
03 Jul 22
@metal-brain saidHow do you account for the fact that Trump told the crowd he was going with them to the Capitol but went back to the White House instead?
The story makes no sense except the SS agents telling Trump they would stay on path. Taking a sudden different path would probably violate security protocol. You need to realize the SS scout the path to destination for anything out of the ordinary and they have vehicles all along that route.
It makes much more sense that the SS told Trump they needed to stay on course for security reasons.
03 Jul 22
@mott-the-hoople saidYou think that there are "secret" pardons that can go into effect years after a President leaves office?
how do you know Trump hasnt pardoned them?
03 Jul 22
@mott-the-hoople saidIf they have something significant to say, they'll testify publicly and under oath. Note no one has made any public statement challenging the testimony regarding the incident yet.
the “committee” will never subpoena them…the “committee” has complete control over what the public hears.
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03 Jul 22
@sonhouse saidOMG two aides claim he has a history of lying well I guess that settles it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/07/03/two-former-white-house-aides-say-top-secret-service-official-may-lying-protect-trump/7796127001/?gnt-cfr=1
So lets hear from the principals involved instead of liars.
03 Jul 22
@no1marauder saidHe is a liar.
How do you account for the fact that Trump told the crowd he was going with them to the Capitol but went back to the White House instead?
His election fraud claims appear to be a fundraising scam to fund his reelection in 2024. He is a snake.
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03 Jul 22
@no1marauder saidBecause, according to Hutchinson, who you all believe, Trump told the driver to take him to the capitol but the SS agent refused because it was too dangerous.
How do you account for the fact that Trump told the crowd he was going with them to the Capitol but went back to the White House instead?
@jj-adams saidI agree that makes sense. As does the claim that Trump would have gotten mad about it when the agents refused to take him.
Because, according to Hutchinson, who you all believe, Trump told the driver to take him to the capitol but the SS agent refused because it was too dangerous.
03 Jul 22
@no1marauder saidGoing against Trump right now will end a Republican's career.
Some people who worked for Trump lied, others didn't. It would be more perilous now to do so since Trump can't pardon them as he did so many other liars during his term.
@no1marauder saidyes there is… I thought you were a lawyer 😂
You think that there are "secret" pardons that can go into effect years after a President leaves office?
https://time.com/6188793/trump-pardons-jan-6-explainer/
https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/534222-how-to-stop-trumps-secret-pardons/
03 Jul 22
@Metal-Brain
So now you move the goalposts. They ONLY use the beast for POTUS BECAUSE it is bulletproof. So just getting into a toyota van is not an option but you knew that full well but just in your own uniquely incompetent manner think you are weaponizing something or other but instead you just become that much more transparent comrade.
03 Jul 22
@JJ-Adams
So because those aids cast indirect aspersions on TRUMP THEY are insignificant but CASSIDY, you think she lies UNDER OATH and subject to criminal liability if proven she lied, SHE is now a pariah.
Good luck with that hypocritical stance.
You zombies get dumber day by day.