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Originally posted by generalissimoSomebody will no doubt get a railroad tie mansion! There are a myriad of artificial supports for current food prices as well as the basic issues of the transportation infrastructure. It is truly sad how some people entertain this fantasy of self-sufficiency despite all evidence to the contrary - pigheadedly ignorant not only of the current state of their environment but similarly ignorant about history. We have a pro-business government (the libertarians lost the original argument back at the beginning of the 19th century) because it not only benefited business interests but also the citizens as a whole. For 30 years we have let the achievements of 150 years rot away because of whining misinformed children and the greedy rich. I hope you are old because there is rude awakening coming when everything collapses from this neglect.
thats not the same as providing "salad, meat, and bread".
And BTW, genius, "running it" doesn't put it on your table.
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Originally posted by TerrierJackThe American indians did just fine, until we showed up,, or did they? I do have a placed payed for in the Mts, also a 16.5 ft dia soux TiPi,, I can shoot elk, deer, have tanned hides, I could make it, until I got too old to function, then I'll live off your taxes..:-)
So where do you get your salad, meat, bread, gas, and water? Still sucking from the public services or do you have private sources?
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Originally posted by Hugh GlassYou wouldn't last five minutes in the mountains with 3 million people camped out in next hollow. See, that's the problem - there were a lot less Indians running around on this continent than there are citizens now. There's not enough to shoot or enough land for growing crops to keep us all alive without collective action. When you're gone (as one day we all will be) don't you want your family to have a chance of survival? Do you care about your family? Do you care about the republic? (Republics only last as long as the citizens feel they are a family.) Old Ben's quote is even more true today than when he said it at the signing of the Declaration of Independence "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."
The American indians did just fine, until we showed up,, or did they? I do have a placed payed for in the Mts, also a 16.5 ft dia soux TiPi,, I can shoot elk, deer, have tanned hides, I could make it, until I got too old to function, then I'll live off your taxes..:-)
I'll agree however, you don't have to care about any of that. You can say, "I'll begrudging give only what I'm made to give because I don't care about anyone but me and mine." Good thing the Founders didn't see it that way. Good thing my father's generation fought the Nazis and triumphed over the Depression. But none of those people would have done so with that me-and-mine attitude. I can't remember what they kept for themselves but I know they gave us so much and we are squandering every bit of it with selfish hubris and when we are done no one will remember us.
06 Mar 10
Originally posted by TerrierJackIt depends on where in the Mts my friend. I have spent the last two summers in the Winds of Wyoming, living in the TiPi. Population of wyo, is around 450K.
You wouldn't last five minutes in the mountains with 3 million people camped out in next hollow. See, that's the problem - there were a lot less Indians running around on this continent than there are citizens now. There's not enough to shoot or enough land for growing crops to keep us all alive without collective action. When you're gone (as one day we ...[text shortened]... ry bit of it with selfish hubris and when we are done no one will remember us.
My place is at 7600ft, with a locked gate at the bottom, and I can hear things way before I see them.
I have the hole dug now for a basement under my cabin, I'll pour a gun safe into the basement wall. Solar power, back-up generator if need be.
My kids are about grown.
googled this The Circle of Towers, Wind River range in wyo....
I have survived in the mountains, took the national Outdoor Leadership class in lander where I grew up.
:-) but, you are right, there have to be some sacrifices made,, maybe internet?
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Originally posted by Hugh GlassWhatever you say Jeremiah Johnson. You won't even be remembered on some man's lodge pole.
It depends on where in the Mts my friend. I have spent the last two summers in the Winds of Wyoming, living in the TiPi. Population of wyo, is around 450K.
My place is at 7600ft, with a locked gate at the bottom, and I can hear things way before I see them.
I have the hole dug now for a basement under my cabin, I'll pour a gun safe into the basement wal ...[text shortened]... ere I grew up.
:-) but, you are right, there have to be some sacrifices made,, maybe internet?
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Originally posted by Hugh GlassIt is not about your survival skills. It is about 350 million people. Is there something about Republicans that prevents them from thinking thru the effects of their fantasies? When my ancestors were walking this continent just to scratch out a living there was no place they did not touch. Can you imagine what more than 10 times that number of people will do? Obviously not. We all prosper here because of what we each contribute. Try out Somalia for a small taste of a place where that kind of cooperation has collapsed.
lol,, google the name HUGH GLASS
I walked all over in the Jim Bridger Wilderness area. Only because Glass did not kill him.
06 Mar 10
Originally posted by TerrierJackI haven't seen anyone here advocating the anarchy of Somalia. You continually bringing up Somalia amounts to (putting it politely) exaggeration, or (a little less politely but more accurately) dishonesty.
It is not about your survival skills. It is about 350 million people. Is there something about Republicans that prevents them from thinking thru the effects of their fantasies? When my ancestors were walking this continent just to scratch out a living there was no place they did not touch. Can you imagine what more than 10 times that number of people wi ...[text shortened]... bute. Try out Somalia for a small taste of a place where that kind of cooperation has collapsed.
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Originally posted by WajomaDo you think Somalia was planned or advocated?
I haven't seen anyone here advocating the anarchy of Somalia. You continually bringing up Somalia amounts to (putting it politely) exaggeration, or (a little less politely but more accurately) dishonesty.
06 Mar 10
Originally posted by Hugh GlassI got my Tipi from the Nomadic Tipi Makers in Bend Oregon. You? Lived in it for one night (in the winter) and retreated to the cabin. Lived in it during summers mostly, with my Wife. On top of the Mts. overlooking Lake Seneca. We both worked as framers for a local builder.
The American indians did just fine, until we showed up,, or did they? I do have a placed payed for in the Mts, also a 16.5 ft dia soux TiPi,, I can shoot elk, deer, have tanned hides, I could make it, until I got too old to function, then I'll live off your taxes..:-)
GRANNY.
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Originally posted by WajomaIt sounds like to me you are the one who is consistently dishonest. I cannot count the number of times I have directed queries your way only to have you respond with insults that never addressed the question. It appears that your power to reason is severely limited but your ability to manufacture distractions to hide that deficiency is infinite.
You should go ahead wearing out the s, o, m, a, l, i, keys on your keyboard, good show, as you were, we believe you.
07 Mar 10
Originally posted by smw6869Yes, That's where I got mine as well.... I just love it, but there is some tweaking to do...
I got my Tipi from the Nomadic Tipi Makers in Bend Oregon. You? Lived in it for one night (in the winter) and retreated to the cabin. Lived in it during summers mostly, with my Wife. On top of the Mts. overlooking Lake Seneca. We both worked as framers for a local builder.
GRANNY.
I sleep like a baby in it.