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23 Dec 04
23 Dec 04
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Originally posted by Saint NickI would not simply say it is just the rich going after the poor. I believe
Well, I might be a saint, but I'm not familiar with "SMD" 🙄
KellyJay, Like I said, I greatly enjoy the holiday season and think it is wonderful. At the same time I think it is blantently false to say "Jesus was born on December 2 ...[text shortened]... ass on christmas eve or christmas day, then you'll go to hell"
there is more to this time of year than just making money, because of
the reason for the season. My family celebrates most holidays on a
different day than the actual event, just so we can get everyone in
the family together at the same time. Since that is more important
to us than the 'day' on the calendar. I believe because we do that I
can say without any trouble that even if the event actually occurred in
either August or July it does not matter when Jesus was born. It only
matters that Jesus was born and who Jesus was, why He was here, and
so on. So getting the exact day on the calendar circled isn’t that
important in my opinion, and neither is where the Christmas tree
came from either. It is what it is now, and that is simply part of the
Christmas tradition, the rest is simply just interesting history trivia.
As far as the rich goes, even the poor like to make a profit, and I'd
say that is how you should frame your complaint if that is what you’re
doing. Limiting the goal of making money to just the rich makes the
actions seem okay if a poor person is doing it. If a poor person
figures out a way to make a huge profit during the holidays, more
power to them in my opinion, providing no one is getting hurt.
If you are going to say that this season is for giving for no reasons,
than allow those people who make a living helping people do just
that, do just that. What I dislike is people who don’t want to
participate and they simply cannot allow others to enjoy something
inportant to them. Why do people feel the need to attempt to ruin it
for others?
Kelly
23 Dec 04
Originally posted by Jay PeateaI knew it was Coke that made him dress up in red. It's the reason no other soft drink has Santa on their bottle during Christmas period. However I heard that he used to be grey,
Traditionally St Nick used to be dress in green, It was an advert for Coke Cola which dress him up in red sometime in the 1920 or 1930 which has become part of our modern tradition.
24 Dec 04
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Originally posted by bambeeWe all know that the christmas tree came from Germany, but why the tradition was there in the first place: (from www.christmas-tree.com)
The Christmas tree is attributed to St. Boniface who converted the German people to Christianity. Legend has it that when the saint came upon a group of pagans worshipping an oak tree, he cut it down in protest. Much to his astonishment, a t ...[text shortened]... the idea of the glass ornament tradition to the United States.
The Egyptians were part of a long line of cultures that treasured and worshipped evergreens. When the winter solstice arrive, they brought green date palm leaves into their homes to symbolize life's triumph over death.
The Romans celebrated the winter solstice with a fest called Saturnalia in honor of Saturnus, the god of agriculture. They decorated their houses with greens and lights and exchanged gifts. They gave coins for prosperity, pastries for happiness, and lamps to light one's journey through life.
Centuries ago in Great Britain, woods priests called Druids used evergreens during mysterious winter solstice rituals. The Druids used holly and mistletoe as symbols of eternal life, and place evergreen branches over doors to keep away evil spirits.
Late in the Middle Ages, Germans and Scandinavians placed evergreen trees inside their homes or just outside their doors to show their hope in the forthcoming spring. Our modern Christmas tree evolved from these early traditions.
24 Dec 04
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Too much technical stuff. I just want to forgive. And be forgiven.
That is what Christmas is.
And I'm an atheist.
Poor me.
Prolly.
Merry Christmas All
I want nothing but the spirit of Christ.
Mike
Why in the hell can't we love diversity? In all things? Including religion?
Must be a "learned" trait? To hate that which harms or refutes the state?
I think so.
Anyway... Merry Cristmas!!! God! I want the savings and load to just Kill potter! Please!
SVW runs down main steet yelling "merry Christmas!"
24 Dec 04
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Originally posted by Saint NickYes.
I think this is going to be a moot point dicussing if Christmas should be celebrated or not...
How about: Does anyone actually have evidence that Christmas is a christian holiday?
Christ was born.
He brought hope.
Which is rather "magical".
So we celebrate the magic.
Caring. Giving. Feeling.
But what the hell does an ateist like me know?
Bah! Humbug!
Ban the play from our highschool!
We can't have reality intefering with our Doctrine!
Pfoooof!
What a bunch of crap!
Small minds will tolerate nothing. Large minds smile.
Another old saying I just made up.
24 Dec 04
The worst historians teach in churches; the second worst work on Madison Avenue; the third worse for Disney; then politicians; then the news media (especially the TV folks who are hundreds of times worse than those who work in print).
X-mas truth? "The truth is out there" (but never on Fox).