18 Apr 08
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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterIt also melts gas tanks on boats.
Ethanol increases global warming, destroys forests and inflates food prices, says Michael Grunwald. So why are we subsidizing it?
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725975,00.html
However it is renewable and produces no nasty pollution other than the CO2 that causes the warming, which any fuel will produce. Even the food we eat makes us produce CO2. CO2 is just part of getting the energy out of fuel that combusts.
19 Apr 08
Originally posted by uzlessBut doesn't this car have to be charged electrically? My understanding is that electricity is largely
Bah!
Here is the future. We don't need more oil. Just use it smarter. In less than 10 years most of us will be driving things like this..
http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/410337
Here's the key info:
Fully charged, the Volt could drive about 40 miles without using any gasoline, and a small conventional engine would recharge the vehicle, ...[text shortened]... k of gas..500 miles.
These are on sale in 2010 and will sell for approx 32K. Get in line.
created through coal, which burns far dirtier than oil. If the argument is an environmental one
(rather than a 'foreign oil' one), isn't this worse?
Nemesio
19 Apr 08
Originally posted by NemesioHeard of clean coal? Check it out. Also, we do have this way to create electricity.. its called nuclear. Even the co-founder of GreenPeace Patrick moore stated that nuclear energy was the future and that he was wrong for initially oposing the use of nuclear.
But doesn't this car have to be charged electrically? My understanding is that electricity is largely
created through coal, which burns far dirtier than oil. If the argument is an environmental one
(rather than a 'foreign oil' one), isn't this worse?
Nemesio
19 Apr 08
Originally posted by NemesioUh, read the article. This car is electric. It has a small gasoline engine that burns gas to recharge the battery. It will have a range of 500 km before it needs to be refueled but you would use a fraction of the amount of gas compared toa normal vehicle.
But doesn't this car have to be charged electrically? My understanding is that electricity is largely
created through coal, which burns far dirtier than oil. If the argument is an environmental one
(rather than a 'foreign oil' one), isn't this worse?
Nemesio
19 Apr 08
Originally posted by SMSBear716Clean coal is NOT clean. It is less polluting than regular coal. that's it.
Heard of clean coal? Check it out. Also, we do have this way to create electricity.. its called nuclear. Even the co-founder of GreenPeace Patrick moore stated that nuclear energy was the future and that he was wrong for initially oposing the use of nuclear.
It is still by far the most polluting way of creating electricity.