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@no1marauder said
A "libertarian" heaping praise on someone's who's party platform includes a policy to ban a certain religion's holy book, places of worship and schools? https://apnews.com/article/netherlands-election-wilders-coalition-c3caa2c87d7ce4d2e0cd7a1840f1f7c3

Is it an "exaggeration" to call such a position "far right"?
That's because I doubt every time someone says 'far right' because they abuse it's meaning and fling it around indiscriminately, I've been called 'far right' numerous times here. Like the racist card it's a case of little boy cried wolf wayyyyy too many times.

No one took it seriously that the Koran was going to be banned, anymore than people believed Trump was calling mexicans rapists. Even the people that miuse and abuse the terms know they're being dishonest.

From your link:

Article 1 of the Dutch Constitution outlaws discrimination “on grounds of religion, belief, political opinion, race, gender, disability, sexual orientation or on any other grounds.”

"In an election-night victory speech, Wilders pledged not to push any policies that would breach Dutch law or the constitution.
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@wajoma said
That's because I doubt every time someone says 'far right' because they abuse it's meaning and fling it around indiscriminately, I've been called 'far right' numerous times here. Like the racist card it's a case of little boy cried wolf wayyyyy too many times.

No one took it seriously that the Koran was going to be banned, anymore than people believed Trump was calling mexi ...[text shortened]... eech, Wilders pledged not to push any policies that would breach Dutch law or the constitution.[/i]"
My link also says that pledge remains in his party's platform.

So who's being "dishonest"?

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@wajoma said
That's because I doubt every time someone says 'far right' because they abuse it's meaning and fling it around indiscriminately, I've been called 'far right' numerous times here. Like the racist card it's a case of little boy cried wolf wayyyyy too many times.

No one took it seriously that the Koran was going to be banned, anymore than people believed Trump was calling mexi ...[text shortened]... eech, Wilders pledged not to push any policies that would breach Dutch law or the constitution.[/i]"
You don’t think it’s a little strange that a politician has to say he’s not going to break the law?

And he is extreme right, no matter what your thoughts on the matter are.

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@shavixmir said
You don’t think it’s a little strange that a politician has to say he’s not going to break the law?

And he is extreme right, no matter what your thoughts on the matter are.
This is the lesson for No.1 (and a learning moment for you too) I concede Wilders might be what one could call right wing, but he's a world away from Milei.

The point being; everyone is being labeled 'far right wing' (even my-good-self) and what's happened is that like 'racism' the term has lost meaning. The shame of it is that actual racists and actual far right wingers cannot be called out, they get a kind of free pass. It's all a lack witted attempt to smear and thanks to overuse and abuse it no longer means anything. Same with terms like: 'ultra conservative' or 'radical conservative' both of which are literal oxy-morons.

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@wajoma said
This is the lesson for No.1 (and a learning moment for you too) I concede Wilders might be what one could call right wing, but he's a world away from Milei.

The point being; everyone is being labeled 'far right wing' (even my-good-self) and what's happened is that like 'racism' the term has lost meaning. The shame of it is that actual racists and actual far right wingers c ...[text shortened]... ith terms like: 'ultra conservative' or 'radical conservative' both of which are literal oxy-morons.
You’re economically far-right. A capitalist extremist.

Morally? You’d have to ask the koalas.

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@shavixmir said
You’re economically far-right. A capitalist extremist.

Morally? You’d have to ask the koalas.
This is one of those things like:

State capitalism isn't capitalism.
Free Health Care isn't free.

and so...

'Economically' far-right isn't politically far-right nor philosophically far right. The 'far-right' is redundant, capitalism is capitalism, it's meant as a smear but the far-right and extreme far right are not free market economically.

Morally: I have no claim over your life, it would be nice if you could grant me the same consideration.

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