03 May 19
@mott-the-hoople saidHe didn't actually say that. The redacted report says no crime could likely be proven under U.S. law with regard to the Trump campaign's collusion with the Russian military against the U.S.
so mueller was wrong when he said Trump or anyone on the Trump campaign colluded or conspired with russia?
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03 May 19
@kazetnagorra saidLOL...you idiot. that was the obstruction part
He didn't actually say that. The redacted report says no crime could likely be proven under U.S. law with regard to the Trump campaign's collusion with the Russian military against the U.S.
03 May 19
@mott-the-hoople saidNo, the report details various accounts of obstruction by Trump and leaves it up to Congress what to do with it.
LOL...you idiot. that was the obstruction part
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03 May 19
@kazetnagorra saidyes, and it was clear on no collusion.
No, the report details various accounts of obstruction by Trump and leaves it up to Congress what to do with it.
03 May 19
@mott-the-hoople saidNo, the redacted report says no crime could likely be proven under U.S. law with regard to the Trump campaign's collusion with the Russian military against the U.S. Collusion was already admitted by the Trump campaign and Trump personally when they acknowledged their role in the Trump Tower meeting and the ensuing attempted cover-up thereof.
yes, and it was clear on no collusion.
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03 May 19
@kazetnagorra saidyou are an ignorant fool!
No, the redacted report says no crime could likely be proven under U.S. law with regard to the Trump campaign's collusion with the Russian military against the U.S. Collusion was already admitted by the Trump campaign and Trump personally when they acknowledged their role in the Trump Tower meeting and the ensuing attempted cover-up thereof.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/mueller-report-found-no-evidence-of-trump-russia-collusion-justice-dept/a-48046468
03 May 19
@mott-the-hoople saidWhat point is your link, quoting the opinion of notorious war criminal Bill Barr, who was handpicked to obstruct the Mueller investigation, meant to convey?
you are an ignorant fool!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/mueller-report-found-no-evidence-of-trump-russia-collusion-justice-dept/a-48046468
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03 May 19
@kazetnagorra saidGod help you, you poor fool!
What point is your link, quoting the opinion of notorious war criminal Bill Barr, who was handpicked to obstruct the Mueller investigation, meant to convey?
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03 May 19
@mott-the-hoople saidYou really should stop pontificating about a Report you haven't read a page of.
yes, and it was clear on no collusion.
It specifically rejects even discussing a non-legal concept like "collusion" instead measuring the numerous contacts between the Trump Campaign and Russian officials and those linked to the government. It concludes that the evidence is insufficient to establish conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt between those two parties but nothing more.
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@no1marauder saidThis is correct.
You really should stop pontificating about a Report you haven't read a page of.
It specifically rejects even discussing a non-legal concept like "collusion" instead measuring the numerous contacts between the Trump Campaign and Russian officials and those linked to the government. It concludes that the evidence is insufficient to establish conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt between those two parties but nothing more.
Its clear you haven't read it. Its clear you repeat the talking points you hear from people who haven't read it. In short, Its clear you are talking about something you don't begin to understand. That doesn't mean you won't win the next election. It only means we're really in trouble if you do.
But hope springs eternal. Surely the United States is not that reduced.
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04 May 19
@no1marauder saidthe fool doesn't understand collusion and conspiracy are interchangeable
You really should stop pontificating about a Report you haven't read a page of.
It specifically rejects even discussing a non-legal concept like "collusion" instead measuring the numerous contacts between the Trump Campaign and Russian officials and those linked to the government. It concludes that the evidence is insufficient to establish conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt between those two parties but nothing more.
a secret agreement, especially for fraudulent or treacherous purposes; conspiracy:
Some of his employees were acting in collusion to rob him.
Law . a secret understanding between two or more persons to gain something illegally, to defraud another of his or her rights, or to appear as adversaries though in agreement:
collusion of husband and wife to obtain a divorce.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/collusion
@mott-the-hoople saidNo, they are not as explained in the Report:
the fool doesn't understand collusion and conspiracy are interchangeable
a secret agreement, especially for fraudulent or treacherous purposes; conspiracy:
Some of his employees were acting in collusion to rob him.
Law . a secret understanding between two or more persons to gain something illegally, to defraud another of his or her rights, or to appear as adv ...[text shortened]...
collusion of husband and wife to obtain a divorce.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/collusion
"In evaluating whether evidence about collective action of multiple individuals constituted a crime, we applied the framework of conspiracy law, not the concept of "collusion" ................... But collusion is not a specific offence or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law. For these reasons, the Office's focus in analyzing questions of joint criminal liability was on conspiracy as defined in federal law."
Mueller Report, p. 2
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@no1marauder saidIts OVER...give it up!
No, they are not as explained in the Report:
"In evaluating whether evidence about collective action of multiple individuals constituted a crime, we applied the framework of conspiracy law, not the concept of "collusion" ................... But collusion is not a specific offence or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal ...[text shortened]... ns of joint criminal liability was on conspiracy as defined in federal law."
Mueller Report, p. 2