@sonhouse saidI have never said that there is no corruption in SCOTUS.
@AverageJoe1
Tell me your proof there is no corruption in the supreme court.
YOU are the one who is deliberately blind.
You probably refused to go to the link I provided about that corruption.
https://www.progressreport.news/p/uncovering-more-supreme-court-corruption
You are a real mess, little fella. Do you exercise? Take a break, drink lots of water. Deep breaths. You can be just like me!
@AverageJoe1
It sounds more like you condon such corruption or at least approve of the decisions coming out of this corrupt body like end of Roe V Wade and coming attacks on other freedoms.
Of course you will poo poo everything I said since our government is SO benign according to you, no threats to democracy or any of that stuff.
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@sonhouse saidOh Yeah?!?! Well, you need to expand your mind by staying on topic when you post on the site. This thread is Stock Market. You have it all muddied up. How can you find so much to write about SCOTUS. Everybody knows what it is. Everybody knows how big it is. Everybody knows no one is perfect and everybody knows that if Alito did what they say he did, then he needs to go. Everybody knows that. I think you are typing to yourself.
@AverageJoe1
You really don't get it yet. Like I said SCOTUS is the SUPREME COURT OF THE US.
The corruption there is right out in the open, they don't even bother to hide it.
The problem is there is ZERO oversight on SCOTUS. THAT is the problem, NOBODY can do squat about it.
At least with the obvious corruption of Trump there is impeachment which happened twice but the ...[text shortened]... ot more corruption is going on besides anything from Trump or what you THINK is going on with Biden.
@sonhouse saidWait a minute… Are you saying that the Roe decision was incorrect, given that it did nothing but put abortion back to the states? It says in the constitution that such issues are state matters. So here you are telling me I know nothing about SCOTUS, while you pretend to know something about Roe, which you do not. Why don’t you step up and say as much as you hate it, the decision was properly made.
@AverageJoe1
It sounds more like you condon such corruption or at least approve of the decisions coming out of this corrupt body like end of Roe V Wade and coming attacks on other freedoms.
Of course you will poo poo everything I said since our government is SO benign according to you, no threats to democracy or any of that stuff.
@AverageJoe1
It WAS incorrect, that result was the 50 year push by evangelical so called Christians who have hated R V W ever since it was enacted and have cultivated the ultrarightwingers to kill it and they did and it is in states now but that is not the end of the story, if Trump gets reelected he will work congress to pass laws banning abortion in all 50 states. And a number of states enacted laws to put women in jail for GOING to a safe state for an abortion and the draconian laws passed in states now have almost killed several women who did not have a viable fetus, it was dead or soon would be but doctors could not do an abortion even though the woman went into sepsis and literally almost died.
And that will be the law of the whole country if Trump has his way, you ok with that?
@sonhouse saidYeah, imok. Of course, I see now.
@AverageJoe1
It WAS incorrect, that result was the 50 year push by evangelical so called Christians who have hated R V W ever since it was enacted and have cultivated the ultrarightwingers to kill it and they did and it is in states now but that is not the end of the story, if Trump gets reelected he will work congress to pass laws banning abortion in all 50 states. And a n ...[text shortened]... almost died.
And that will be the law of the whole country if Trump has his way, you ok with that?
I think SCOTUS should invite laymen of the country such as yourself to introduce your own thinking, your briefs, such as that which you have written here, to help them make their decisions. Maybe they will, now that you have shown them that they have screwed up.
@AverageJoe1
Yeah, right, like you actually believe that. You just cannot accept the fact the majority of SCOTUS as it is right now is a direct result of Moscow Mitch totally rejecting letting Obama have a SCOTUS pick and held all that up till Trump came along and they got three of the most rightwingers in US history to sit on the Supreme court.
Maybe you remember the Kavanaugh nomination and the fervor that created in the hearings, we know he was a rapist but got away with it, and now we hear he is against all the laws passed by previous SCOTUS rulings like the civil rights bill, he wants to kill that, he just made that comment already and then the other two right wingers, together making SCOTUS totally right wing AND corrupted by the billionaire club
The next step is to reverse the rulings on gay marriage and such and going even further than killing Roe V Wade, like the mass incarceration of undocumented folks put in vast concentration camps to make a factory of deportations as declared by Trump.
I'm sure you right wingers will hardily approve of all of it no matter how far back in the past we make laws like the one just thrown out in Arizona about abortion.
Giving abortion laws to the states is just the way SCOTUS wanted it because those right wing judges KNEW what would happen in right wing states and if Trump wins again to make new federal law banning abortion in ALL states and I imagine you would be dancing in the streets about that, men getting complete control over woman at long last, maybe passing laws depriving them of the right to vote.
And OF COURSE you think all of that is just SH hyperbole but wait till it all happens and we start losing our freedoms one by one, including the right to protest. That is what authoritarian government do, kill citizen rights like abortion issues, first to go, then rights to protest, using the military to shoot to kill like happens in Russia and China.
And of COURSE you go 'that could never happen here' but the US is NOT immune from such changes. The push to authoritarian government has already started.
The most likely event of this post is your eyes glaze over at more than one sentence and you refuse to even read it much less poo poo it.
@sonhouse saidI try to read your posts, but my brain and my eyes glaze over with all of the redundance. Why, you might not remember this, but you did a few months ago make reference to "...giving abortion laws to the states...', and you have accidentally mentioned it again. I mean, what is a man to do? My coffee is getting cold.
@AverageJoe1
Yeah, right, like you actually believe that. You just cannot accept the fact the majority of SCOTUS as it is right now is a direct result of Moscow Mitch totally rejecting letting Obama have a SCOTUS pick and held all that up till Trump came along and they got three of the most rightwingers in US history to sit on the Supreme court.
Maybe you remember the Ka ...[text shortened]... your eyes glaze over at more than one sentence and you refuse to even read it much less poo poo it.
@AverageJoe1
Wow, it is clear you could give a rats ass how corrupt ANYONE is, state level passing draconian abortion laws like already happened in states like Texas where a woman will be put in jail for daring to go to a safe state to have an abortion no matter why, like that woman who nearly died because of that law.
OR corruption on the top court, I guess you are willfully blind and always will be, just the kind of voter Trump LOVES.
@sonhouse saidYou wrote that whole post, about a baby who DID die, but did not mention the baby who died.
@AverageJoe1
Wow, it is clear you could give a rats ass how corrupt ANYONE is, state level passing draconian abortion laws like already happened in states like Texas where a woman will be put in jail for daring to go to a safe state to have an abortion no matter why, like that woman who nearly died because of that law.
OR corruption on the top court, I guess you are willfully blind and always will be, just the kind of voter Trump LOVES.
You see how difficult it makes your posts, I just can't get my arms around the thought process of a fellow poster who writes about the serious subject of abortion, mentions the mother's travel distance or some such, interrupting her week, but never mentions the baby who is making the same trip. Like Scotsman Robert the Bruce in 1339, who was on his way to the town square to be drawn and quartered.
At least the baby does not see it coming.
@AverageJoe1
Are you kidding? You must have heard about this case, it happened in Texas, where you said you live. The 'baby' was NOT a baby, it was a dead fetus and would have killed the mom if it had not been removed but the draconian POS law the buffoon state legislators passed did not care about that kind of situation, I assume their reply would have been 'let the bitch die, we ONLY care about that precious baby', which at that point was not and never would have been a 'baby', it was a dead fetus.
What part of that do you not understand? Do you hate women so much you don't care a woman almost died of sepsis BECAUSE of the POS legislation you repubs passed in Texas?
@sonhouse saidI did speed read, as necessary for your posts, with full knowledge that you are cool with abortions, so did not get the gist of a stillborn baby. So, that out of the way, I will watch for your next pro-abortion posts about your concerns for a mother who changed her mind about having a baby, and had to waste a day of her timehaving to find a place to have 'it' aborted.
@AverageJoe1
Are you kidding? You must have heard about this case, it happened in Texas, where you said you live. The 'baby' was NOT a baby, it was a dead fetus and would have killed the mom if it had not been removed but the draconian POS law the buffoon state legislators passed did not care about that kind of situation, I assume their reply would have been 'let the bitch ...[text shortened]... don't care a woman almost died of sepsis BECAUSE of the POS legislation you repubs passed in Texas?
@sonhouse saidI don't know if there is corruption in the Supreme Court, and I don't know if there is not corruption in the Supreme Court. If one of the judges is suspected of corruption or other unseemly activity, it would take a few unbiased judges to thresh it out, it would have to be studied. Maybe you could participate. Certainly you do not think that you could just decide on your own if a judge, say Justice Thomas, is corrupt? What evidence and how would you gather it? I would hope that, heaven forbid, you would not pre-judge the judge.
@AverageJoe1
Tell me your proof there is no corruption in the supreme court.
YOU are the one who is deliberately blind.
You probably refused to go to the link I provided about that corruption.
https://www.progressreport.news/p/uncovering-more-supreme-court-corruption