"The Struggle to Speak Up: How Women are Pressured to De-escalate Sexist Incidents" (article)

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"Damned if you do, damned if you don't" leaps to mind here.

I wonder what is so wrong with just being fair to other people regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation or any other bogus criteria people use to treat people differently. Is that really too much to ask?

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I read that post, but unlike many on this forum, I refrained from commenting because I know nothing about her.

"Reaping the whirlwind" is a great metaphor for these cases. Many women get treated in a punitive way sometimes I think in order to discourage others from speaking out.

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Yes, yes, YES. A billion times, yes.

And all of us who stand up and say, "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!" get called 'strident bitches', or worse. I say if we're going to be mistreated merely for being women, then we need to own it, and be unapologetic. After all, we're already PAYing for that right, at least.

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And honestly, I feel sorry for the scumbag who felt he had to thumb down your post.

I really hope he figures it out before his wife or daughter experiences the kind of gender discrimination you're talking about.

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So what would you do if you were a female intern in the Oval Office and the President got out his cigars?

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Been there, done that.

Strange thing, though. Since I've taken training to defend myself, this is way less scary than it used to be. I find it helps if you can laugh it off and/or turn it around and make the guy feel like a pathetic loser for trying to intimidate you.

Originally posted by whodey
So what would you do if you were a female intern in the Oval Office and the President got out his cigars?

I think maybe you could find a better venue for your sick fantasies.

(*jedi hand-waving*)

This is not the thread you're looking for.

Originally posted by Suzianne
I think maybe you could find a better venue for your sick fantasies.

(*jedi hand-waving*)

This is not the thread you're looking for.

It's a serious question.

What would you do if approached sexually by your boss, the President of the United States?

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That's idiotic. Why else do men wear suits to business meeting? Can a man wear shorts and a tank-top to business meeting?

Both men and women have to worry about they wear to business meetings.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Yes, yes, YES. A billion times, yes.

And all of us who stand up and say, "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!" get called 'strident bitches', or worse. I say if we're going to be mistreated merely for being women, then we need to own it, and be unapologetic. After all, we're already PAYing for that right, at least.

Can you give a personal example of this? I imagine you have a story or two, since you said "all of us", meaning all women.

EDIT: Because of the inflammatory nature this topic can have, let me be clear: I'm not asking out of some "gotcha" type of questioning. I'm not asking because I doubt your experiences, and I'm "calling you out" on it, nor am I looking to rebut your statement. I'm legitimately asking for your personal account of a time where you were chastised for standing up for yourself as a woman.