The U.N. Should Accept Palestine as a Full Member State

Originally posted by Teinosuke
Lasting peace between long-time enemies actually results when circumstances change. From the Norman invasion in the eleventh-century to the Napoleonic Wars, England / Britain repeatedly engaged in conflict with France. There were generally sound geopolitical and strategic reasons for this during those centuries. There aren't any more, and so Britain hasn't ...[text shortened]... cific and concrete causes and motives. If those can be dealt with, then the conflict will end.

The treaty of Ghent ending the War of 1812 would most likely have been tossed out the window if the British had not been defeated at New Orleans.

The situation that most often changes is the prospects for victory, or the costs anticipated.

Originally posted by FMF
The U.S. casts itself as the broker, indeed as the "honest broker".

Doesn't make it so.

Originally posted by FMF
You attribute the failings of the Oslo accords to Norway?

No attribution of fault, only that the "solution" wasn't for long.

Originally posted by FMF
Not as far as I can see.

Exactly. The Camp David accord didn't last either.

Originally posted by normbenign
The treaty of Ghent ending the War of 1812 would most likely have been tossed out the window if the British had not been defeated at New Orleans.

The situation that most often changes is the prospects for victory, or the costs anticipated.

Hogwash. The Brits were happy to be rid of the war.

Originally posted by skipper2666
WHAT!

As John McEnroe would say, "You cannot be serious"

That's not an answer. And almost everyone who ever watched a McEnroe match knew the man was loony when the calls didn't go his way.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Hogwash. The Brits were happy to be rid of the war.

Happier yet after losing 2000 men in 20 minutes.

Originally posted by normbenign
That's not an answer. And almost everyone who ever watched a McEnroe match knew the man was loony when the calls didn't go his way.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Do you think that there is a State/ country called Palestine?

Originally posted by skipper2666
I've never read so much mulch.

You're dogma has blinded you to reason, it is a fault in lots of people.... don't worry it can be cured.

Well, gee, thanks for the thoughtful counterargument.

Originally posted by sh76
Well, gee, thanks for the thoughtful counterargument.

There is no point in arguing with anyone when they will no put their beliefs to one side and be impartial.

You believe what you believe, I'm not here to try and convince you of anything... you must do that on you're own.

I walk on neither side of the divide but believe in what I see as right and just.

Originally posted by skipper2666
There is no point in arguing with anyone when they will no put their beliefs to one side and be impartial.

You believe what you believe, I'm not here to try and convince you of anything... you must do that on you're own.

I walk on neither side of the divide but believe in what I see as right and just.

I think I'm quite open minded on this and most every other issue.

If you want to try to convince my I'm wrong, I'll listen to your arguments and consider them. If you dismiss my arguments as biased nonsense without giving any explanation at all, I will dismiss your view as unsubstantiated nonsense.

Frankly, I don't see that I have any choice in the matter on that front.