Trump and Elon Musk, LITERAL traitors to the US.

In phone calls with Putin, Putin asked Musk to deactivate starlink service to Taiwan, and already has been stopping Ukraine from getting to use starlink.
And Trump stealing hundreds of TOP SECRET AND ABOVE documents and putting them in unsecured places BESIDES Mar A Lago basements.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-reportedly-asked-elon-musk-not-activate-starlink-over-taiwan-1974733

So if Trump wins we can see how the Ukraine war will go, already North Koreans are sending troops there, thousands of them and Musk doesn't allow Ukraine to use his system.

It is clear since Trump LOVES dictators like Putin and Kim Jong Un, the US WILL join the Russian axis, pull out of NATO in the bargain.

All you Trump supporters better get your head out your collective asses and take heed of these trends.

Musk and Trump BOTH called Putin and not just one phone call, and that goes directly against the Logan act.

WHY ARE THEY BOTH NOT IN JAIL RIGHT NOW?

And of course, the answer is Trump has been given soft treatment by media for 20 years, milking his crappy TV show, Apprentice. He didn't even decide who gets hired and fired, he was a figurehead on that show, the PRODUCERS decided who wins and loses there.
But this time if Trump wins, the consequences will be worse than anyone even predicted.
Last time Trump was POTUS, he had adults in the room to stop his worse tendencies, now there will be NOBODY to restrain Trump, AND SCOTUS has given him near TOTAL immunity so he WILL do exactly what he said he would do and MUCH MUCH more.

But of COURSE all you Trumpites refuse to see ANY dark side of Trump, just people like me crying the sky is falling.

If Trump wins, you will find out WAY too late just how much of a REAL fascist Trump really is.

@sonhouse
'Trump has been given soft treatment by media for 20 years'

Ever see any of his first term press conferences?

@sonhouse said
In phone calls with Putin, Putin asked Musk to deactivate starlink service to Taiwan, and already has been stopping Ukraine from getting to use starlink.
And Trump stealing hundreds of TOP SECRET AND ABOVE documents and putting them in unsecured places BESIDES Mar A Lago basements.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-reportedly-asked-elon-musk-not-activate-starlink-over-taiwa ...[text shortened]... g.

If Trump wins, you will find out WAY too late just how much of a REAL fascist Trump really is.

@divegeester
He has already gone against the Logan act by talking to Putin. Same with Trump.
They are BOTH clearly on the side of Putin and that will be shown out in the open if Trump wins.

@DJJ
Every time Trump gets on the air with his lies, NOBODY does any fact checking, ESPECIALLY Fox News,

@sonhouse said
@divegeester
He has already gone against the Logan act by talking to Putin. Same with Trump.
They are BOTH clearly on the side of Putin and that will be shown out in the open if Trump wins.

@divegeester
Don't worry, you will see it on TV, but for sure not Fox News or Newsmax or any of the other ultrarightwingnut sites.
I can't understand why both of them are not in jail right now, Musk is actively allied with Putin and stopping Starlink over Taiwan proves that beyond a doubt.

First killing Starlink in Ukraine and now Taiwan, who is next? Philippines?
Hawaii? Germany?

@sonhouse

Not likely to see Musk being prosecuted on TV when he has been found to not be breaking the law.

The problem you seem to have is that when you see someone doing or saying something you don’t approve of, you seem to spin off if into this riff about it being illegal.

Do you now accept that your assertion that he was breaking the law was incorrect?

@divegeester
So you are ok with Musk, a supposed American, secretly talking on the phone with Putin and following Putin's request to stop his Starling working for Taiwan and the same with Ukraine?

@sonhouse said
@divegeester
So you are ok with Musk, a supposed American, secretly talking on the phone with Putin and following Putin's request to stop his Starling working for Taiwan and the same with Ukraine?

@divegeester
I already said it is up to the courts to say that and there IS a court analysis going on as we speak.
Personally I think Musk should be stripped of his US citizenship and deported and his companies disbanded.
We cannot now even confidently use his spacecraft for US space research, too much riding on a dude so clearly unhinged.
Nobody says he is stupid, his IQ checks in at 160 but that means a SMART traitor is just that more devious and dangerous.

You never answered MY question, do you think it was and is ok for Musk to be secretly talking to Putin and doing his bidding on the use of Starlink?

@sonhouse said
@divegeester
I already said it is up to the courts to say that and there IS a court analysis going on as we speak.

@sonhouse said
@divegeester
So you are ok with Musk, a supposed American, secretly talking on the phone with Putin and following Putin's request to stop his Starling working for Taiwan and the same with Ukraine?

@divegeester
I am talking about secret phone calls to Putin, the million dollar scam is just that, a scam to scare up votes. I have no doubt he gave a way a million dollars and I SAID he is smart enough to know when he is likely to have gone overboard legally.
Right now the much more serious issue is his aligning himself with Putin. That is as clear as a bell. That ok with you?

@divegeester
There is the Logan act which makes it illegal for non officials to talk to Russia by themselves.
According to the Logan act that is the preserve of the president or ambassador level folks, NOT people with no official title like Trump OR Musk.https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10058#:~:text=The%20Logan%20Act%2C%20which%20has,.%20.%20.%20.%E2%80%9D%20Prosecutors%20have

Sorry, here is a link with less baggage

https://www.britannica.com/event/Logan-Act

That act was signed off in 1799 but it is there.

The Arizona 'law' of the early 1800's was used as an excuse to fuuk up women's lives in terms of abortion so the 1799 act could be invoked if they were serious about it,