@sonhouse saidYou mentioned the word 'Tariff' on the 9th post of this thread. You never otherwise mentioned tariff in this thread except just above in your recent post. You silly goose, that is not TEN times, it was one time. One time. You libs really put us through the ringer. You see, I just had to type Twenty Seven words to clear your muddled air.
@AverageJoe1
Right, like you had no idea I said tariff about ten times in this thread alone.
I guess you didn't even hear the fact Trump wants to kill the tax system entirely and replace it with tariffs. And to do that would take a tariff of 140%.
But of course you don't want to talk about ANY crazy ideas your orange fascist has to put forth.
Please Please stay on subect? Thankyou. As to your tariff genius ideas, I know not enough about the ramifications of tariffs to talk about tariffs. Instead of slamming me with your diatribes, how about you write an adult post about why tariffs would not be a good idea!! You may convince me. Sonhouse. Write nice convincing discussions, for discussion.
Draw an audience. Screed gets old.......
If you want to discuss tariffs with the forum, you would normally introduce the subject in proper format. You would not come out of the gate like a racehorse, going at the top of your lungs. I'm glad we don't have speakers.
@AverageJoe1
I just TOLD you the ramifications of that tariff idea put up by your orange fascist Trump.
He wants to kill the entire tax system and replace it with tariffs.
The problem with that is the tariff would have to be 140% to match the governmental income of the tax system.
So a 30,000 dollar car would now cost 70,000 dollars.
It is SO stupid and that BECAUSE Trump doesn't realize tariffs are NOT paid by other countries it is paid for by US in increased prices, that is EXACTLY what happened the last time he pulled that stupid stunt. He THINKS that is a fine on a foreign company but the result is increase in price to the consumer and he doesn't understand that part.
So if he actually got that POS bill through, the entire US economy would TANK.
And that is not a theory that is a fact.
@sonhouse saidBut maybe it is NOT fact that Trump wants to do away with the tax bill, that he is just doing a trial balloon. Give him credit for being creative, prob the most creative in our lifetime.
@AverageJoe1
I just TOLD you the ramifications of that tariff idea put up by your orange fascist Trump.
He wants to kill the entire tax system and replace it with tariffs.
The problem with that is the tariff would have to be 140% to match the governmental income of the tax system.
So a 30,000 dollar car would now cost 70,000 dollars.
It is SO stupid and that BECAUSE Tr ...[text shortened]... t that POS bill through, the entire US economy would TANK.
And that is not a theory that is a fact.
If we argue this, I would short-circuit by saying that Donald should push for the Fair Tax, or the Flat Tax, both have good aspects. So, to not F with tariffs. Another idea was the 999 program suggested by pres candidate Herman Cain, whom I would have LOVED for president. We need smart people. You cannot say that Biden is smart. He is not smart today. End of that discussion!!
@AverageJoe1 saidI know something Biden has going for him Trump doesn't. President Biden isn't a convicted felon on 34 charges!!! 🙂 Don't you wish the same could be said about Donald? How smart does that actually make Donald Trump?
But maybe it is NOT fact that Trump wants to do away with the tax bill, that he is just doing a trial balloon. Give him credit for being creative, prob the most creative in our lifetime.
If we argue this, I would short-circuit by saying that Donald should push for the Fair Tax, or the Flat Tax, both have good aspects. So, to not F with tariffs. Another idea was the ...[text shortened]... smart people. You cannot say that Biden is smart. He is not smart today. End of that discussion!!
-VR
@Very-Rusty saidHaliffax opens our minds! I am going to vote Biden because he is not appealing a trial verdict.!
I know something Biden has going for him Trump doesn't. President Biden isn't a convicted felon on 34 charges!!! 🙂 Don't you wish the same could be said about Donald? How smart does that actually make Donald Trump?
-VR
@AverageJoe1 saidDon't you mean Trump or do you also have an issue remembering names?
Haliffax opens our minds! I am going to vote Biden because he is not appealing a trial verdict.!
Don't forget tonight is Debate night in America Biden vs. The Donald. 😛
-VR
@Very-Rusty saidI was going to vote for Biden till I regarded his horrible vacuous ashen face. Imagine his sitting with the chinee or other world leaders. I figure his voice will be gone in 6 months.
Don't you mean Trump or do you also have an issue remembering names?
Don't forget tonight is Debate night in America Biden vs. The Donald. 😛
-VR
@AverageJoe1
Not even CLOSE to end of discussion. Both dudes did not do well in tonight's debate, Trump lied his ass off OBVIOUSLY because I heard some of the crap he puked out and now totally denies like 'there were good people on both sides' now denied or "I did not have sex with a porn star'.
Biden looks weak at the beginning of the debate but picked up some steam later into it, and I bet no rightwinger is going to keep saying he needs a drug test.
Biden blew it this time just like Obama blew it against Romney but won anyway.
There is time for Biden to recover and maybe this showing will be put behind him.
When Trump was asked if he would accept the result of the next election he just rambled on about other subjects and the moderators had to come back with all well and good but will you accept the election results and he said 'IF' the election is fair, which is code for NO and HELL no.
He never answered any of the questions directly, instead going into a tirade about how bad Biden is and how Biden is ruining the country but the fact is Trump left us over 8 trillion dollars deeper in national debt compared to Biden's FOUR trillion added debt.
So Biden lost the optics but Trump lost BIG time on his lying.
@sonhouse saidGood summary sonhouse, that is the way I saw it too. You made a very fair assessment of the debate. At times I felt sorry for Biden, but as the debate wore on he did get stronger. It does make people wonder though if the Dems should take a different direction in Leadership at this point in time.
@AverageJoe1
Not even CLOSE to end of discussion. Both dudes did not do well in tonight's debate, Trump lied his ass off OBVIOUSLY because I heard some of the crap he puked out and now totally denies like 'there were good people on both sides' now denied or "I did not have sex with a porn star'.
Biden looks weak at the beginning of the debate but picked up some steam late ...[text shortened]... o Biden's FOUR trillion added debt.
So Biden lost the optics but Trump lost BIG time on his lying.
-VR
@sonhouse saidWe all struggle against cognitive dissonance, I get it. But are you good enough at arguing with your own eyes that you were able to convince yourself that the debate was something other than an unmitigated disaster for President Biden?
@AverageJoe1
Not even CLOSE to end of discussion. Both dudes did not do well in tonight's debate, Trump lied his ass off OBVIOUSLY because I heard some of the crap he puked out and now totally denies like 'there were good people on both sides' now denied or "I did not have sex with a porn star'.
Biden looks weak at the beginning of the debate but picked up some steam late ...[text shortened]... o Biden's FOUR trillion added debt.
So Biden lost the optics but Trump lost BIG time on his lying.
Biden is toast. The only question is whether the top Dems have enough intestinal fortitude to sit him down and force him to step down.
@sonhouse saidsunstroker you need to check the very left wing biased snopes for their assessment of this, soon you'll be the last person on the planet trying to get mileage out of it, you and suzidude.
@AverageJoe1
Not even CLOSE to end of discussion. Both dudes did not do well in tonight's debate, Trump lied his ass off OBVIOUSLY because I heard some of the crap he puked out and now totally denies like 'there were good people on both sides' now denied or "I did not have sex with a porn star'.
Biden looks weak at the beginning of the debate but picked up some steam late ...[text shortened]... o Biden's FOUR trillion added debt.
So Biden lost the optics but Trump lost BIG time on his lying.
shathouse said: "I heard some of the crap he puked out and now totally denies like 'there were good people on both sides'
@sonhouse saidbiden: "mumble, mumble, by the way the border patrol endorsed me, they endorsed my position, mumble mumble..."
@AverageJoe1
Not even CLOSE to end of discussion. Both dudes did not do well in tonight's debate, Trump lied his ass off OBVIOUSLY because I heard some of the crap he puked out and now totally denies like 'there were good people on both sides' now denied or "I did not have sex with a porn star'.
Biden looks weak at the beginning of the debate but picked up some steam late ...[text shortened]... o Biden's FOUR trillion added debt.
So Biden lost the optics but Trump lost BIG time on his lying.
Next minute:
Border Patrol Union: "To be clear we never have and we never will endorse biden."