28 Sep 20
@philokalia saidIt is no surprise to see you in this thread supporting this dreadful man.
It would seem to be wise to take advantage of all of the loopholes available to get ahead.
@averagejoe1 saidTrump is a notorious do-nothing president. He nearly outspent Obama's entire 8 year vacation budget in his first few months in office, spends all day watching Fox News and/or spends all day tweeting, sometimes hundreds of tweets a day, which may include wasting time feuding with celebrities.
Take as many trips as you would like, as long as you work as hard as he does. About 16 hours a day. Obama did not work nearly as hard as he does.
This is not opinion: these are all facts which have been discussed on this forum.
@divegeester saidMy doctor is dreadful, he hates children and dogs, smokes, smells bad. But he is rated one of the greatest surgeons in the country. There is also a sweet, blase' physician in town, would remind you of Jimmy carter, but is quite nondescript as a surgeon. I, and you, would prefer doc #1 to operate on our hearts. Nobody here gets the analogy, they just don't get it.
It is no surprise to see you in this thread supporting this dreadful man.
28 Sep 20
@vivify saidWhen you open, as does your sidekick Sonhouse, with Trump being do-nothing, when you and I know better (ask Google), then it stops a Trump-supporter cold, making it impossible to follow up on a pure non-truth.
Trump is a notorious do-nothing president. He nearly outspent Obama's entire 8 year vacation budget in his first few months in office, spends all day watching Fox News and/or spends all day tweeting, sometimes hundreds of tweets a day, which may include wasting time feuding with celebrities.
This is not opinion: these are all facts which have been discussed on this forum.
@averagejoe1 saidIt's not a "non-truth" if what I'm saying has been observed as fact.
When you open, as does your sidekick Sonhouse, with Trump being do-nothing, when you and I know better (ask Google), then it stops a Trump-supporter cold, making it impossible to follow up on a pure non-truth.
For example:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/04/donald-trump-fox-and-friends-interview
Trump rambled on for 53 minutes on Fox & Friends. The Fox News cast repeatedly tried to get Trump off the phone with statements like "well, I know you must be busy", while Trump, to the Fox News cast's horror and embarrassment, kept rambling on.
Trump makes hundreds of Tweets a day, where (like I said earlier) it included feuding with celebrities.
If your gripe is with the literal meaning of "do-nothing", then you're being deliberately obtuse. Trump wasting time and doing nothing all day while in office is well known and infamous.
Again: Trump nearly outspent Obama's 8 year vacation budget in only his first few months in office. This is another fact. Trump has earned the label of "do-nothing" president.
28 Sep 20
@averagejoe1 saidAlso, read about Trump's "Executive Time", which takes up 60% percent of time in office. The catch? "Executive Time" is off the books. No one knows what Trump does during that time. This time is specifically unrecorded, untracked time.
When you open, as does your sidekick Sonhouse, with Trump being do-nothing, when you and I know better (ask Google), then it stops a Trump-supporter cold, making it impossible to follow up on a pure non-truth.
See for yourself:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/07/executive-time-donald-trump-white-house
Trump is indeed a do-nothing president.
28 Sep 20
There's some evidence that the revelations have already hurt the Donald. Rassmussen Reports is a rather dubious poll source heavily biased towards Republicans, but it does do a daily tracking poll of Trump's approval. On Friday it had the Donald at 52% approval (note the RCP aggregate had his approval considerably lower at 45.3% https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html) but on Monday it showed him dropping to a 46% approval with 53% disapproving. https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
Whether this drop in Trump's approval will be reflected in other polls is something we'll soon find out.
29 Sep 20
@no1marauder saidLord i will be grateful when this is behind us. At least one of us will get some relief.
There's some evidence that the revelations have already hurt the Donald. Rassmussen Reports is a rather dubious poll source heavily biased towards Republicans, but it does do a daily tracking poll of Trump's approval. On Friday it had the Donald at 52% approval (note the RCP aggregate had his approval considerably lower at 45.3% https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/ot ...[text shortened]... her this drop in Trump's approval will be reflected in other polls is something we'll soon find out.
29 Sep 20
@averagejoe1 saidYeah, you could use the break.
Lord i will be grateful when this is behind us. At least one of us will get some relief.
Hitching your wagon to that clown has got to be taking a toll. 😢
29 Sep 20
@no1marauder saidWhile I welcome scrutiny of Trump's taxes (you may recall I said he must have issues with them long ago) it isn't going to dip his poll numbers for long. Lots of people and corporations don't pay taxes. When more people point that out this is what will likely happen. People will ask these questions:
There's some evidence that the revelations have already hurt the Donald. Rassmussen Reports is a rather dubious poll source heavily biased towards Republicans, but it does do a daily tracking poll of Trump's approval. On Friday it had the Donald at 52% approval (note the RCP aggregate had his approval considerably lower at 45.3% https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/ot ...[text shortened]... her this drop in Trump's approval will be reflected in other polls is something we'll soon find out.
Isn't that what accountants are for?
Didn't Amazon.com get a tax rebate?
Would you pay more in taxes if you didn't have to?
Then there is the fact I have not seen any copies of Trump's tax returns. Have you? At this point aren't we just taking the NYT word for it? Trump did say it was fake news. Not that I would take the word of a known liar, but how do we know it is accurate?
@metal-brain saidIf it's not accurate, Trump could do what every major party Presidential candidate has done for 50 years and release his tax returns.
While I welcome scrutiny of Trump's taxes (you may recall I said he must have issues with them long ago) it isn't going to dip his poll numbers for long. Lots of people and corporations don't pay taxes. When more people point that out this is what will likely happen. People will ask these questions:
Isn't that what accountants are for?
Didn't Amazon.com get a tax r ...[text shortened]... it was fake news. Not that I would take the word of a known liar, but how do we know it is accurate?
29 Sep 20
@no1marauder saidHe could, but we both know he is unlikely to.
If it's not accurate, Trump could do what every major party Presidential candidate has done for 50 years and release his tax returns.
Even if Trump is telling the truth he would likely let people make fools of themselves rather than prove them wrong soon.
@averagejoe1 saidHow much of that 16 hours a day is spent in front of the tube watching Fox News while throwing back Big Macs? And golf.
Take as many trips as you would like, as long as you work as hard as he does. About 16 hours a day. Obama did not work nearly as hard as he does.
On another note, I noticed a lot of comments about Trump taxes. He simply took advantage of every tax loopholes, which is all legal no matter how much he paid. But get this… Joe Biden was involved in making every tax loo ...[text shortened]... rs need to start worrying about tomorrow night, which will be the worst 90 minutes in Biden’s life 😵
29 Sep 20
@no1marauder saidTo be fair, we do not yet know whether Trump's low tax burden is due to clever exploitation of legal loopholes or deceit. This must await a thorough audit. There is now a strong case to be made that Trump's lack of transparency, i.e., refusal to release his tax returns (contrary to best practise), had nothing to do with his claim that that would have been inappropriate while he was under audit. It is obvious that he realised all along that his low tax burden would reflect badly upon him.
If it's not accurate, Trump could do what every major party Presidential candidate has done for 50 years and release his tax returns.
70,000 dollars for hair cuts! Jeez Louise, he spent more on covering up his pate than many people earn in a year. Any sane person must wonder how he can live such a high life (with 70,000 dollar hair cut bills), if he loses so much money that he legally owes no taxes. Something does not add up there.
In any case, a vote for Trump is a vote not to close any loopholes.
29 Sep 20
@moonbus said"We may live in polarized times, but there’s one belief that Americans of all races, genders, and political persuasions can get behind: Tax the Rich!
To be fair, we do not yet know whether Trump's low tax burden is due to clever exploitation of legal loopholes or deceit. This must await a thorough audit. There is now a strong case to be made that Trump's lack of transparency, i.e., refusal to release his tax returns (contrary to best practise), had nothing to do with his claim that that would have been inappropriate while ...[text shortened]... ething does not add up there.
In any case, a vote for Trump is a vote not to close any loopholes.
Survey after recent survey confirms, quite simply, that most people think the richest Americans should pay more in taxes. The concept seems to have only gained more support since the passage of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, which has disproportionally benefitted the richest American taxpayers, as well as some of the world’s biggest corporations. "
" According to Gallup polls, the majority of Americans has consistently believed for at least a quarter-century that the rich do not pay enough in taxes."
https://money.com/wealth-tax-rich-tax-rates-2020-presidential-election/
Whatever the reasons for his low tax burden (and he is the one who refuses to release his returns so we'd have exact knowledge), the majority of Americans think that the rich, like him, don't pay enough. This issue can't possibly help him.