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@wildgrass saidI'd give anything to have the Biden of even ten years ago back.
Biden had the opportunity to fact check Trump's lies about abortion. Here is what he said:
“I support Roe v. Wade, which had three trimesters. First time is between a woman and a doctor. Second time is between the doctor and an extreme situation. A third time is between the doctor — I mean, between the women and the state."
Trumpers don't care that he lies constantly. Trump knew this. He has all the tools of a con artist and Biden was the mark last night.
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@sonhouse saidIf average joe would have said this, i would have been vicious.
@Zahlanzi
Well Obama lost the debate against Romney but won the election.
There are still months to go and a lot of stuff can happen between now and then.
That doesn't excuse Biden's poor performance and it CERTAINLY does not excuse lie after lie on the stage either.
I can't describe in words how far off you are, while staying polite. Obama, at the height of his political career, with the charisma of a movie star and intelligence to back it up, "losing" against Romney is so far from the train wreck that was Biden that it can be classified as outer space.
"There are still months to go and a lot of stuff can happen between now and then."
To make Biden win? What fairy tale are you living in.
"That doesn't excuse Biden's poor performance and it CERTAINLY does not excuse lie after lie on the stage either."
It doesn't matter, don't you understand? There is no amount of lying that would make Trump lose votes and standing around like a zombie, barely tying two thoughts together will definitely lose Biden's votes, along with the votes he is bleeding because of his disastrous enabling of the Palestinian genocide
And it's all down hill from here.
If the DNC do not convince Biden to drop out Trump will have 4 years. 4 years of dismantling american democracy, of obliterating all the rights. He wants to replace thousands of government experts with his loyalists. Abortion? he already has a stacked supreme court but all he has to do is replace enough people at the FDA and they will declare abortion pills unsafe and therefore illegal. He can obliterate any environment initiative. He can roll back regulations.
Not even needing congress/senate. Which he will get as well if Biden stays on the ticket.
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@Suzianne saidYou could have Bernie Sanders of today. You don't even have to go into science fiction territory
I'd give anything to have the Biden of even ten years ago back.
It needs some effort though. Like i said, call your representatives. Organize a facebook petition even, something, no matter how small.
Sitting and complaining the party of eating faces promises to eat faces and promising you will vote blue no matter who is definitely the most useless thing you could do.
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@Zahlanzi
Obama admitted he lost his debate and I wasn't trying to compare his absolute performance to Biden. Today's rally in North Carolina showed the old Biden so there are more rally's to go and months before the election.
It ain't over till it's over.
I would not be at all surprised SCOTUS says Trump DOES have immunity and there goes the shooting match.
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidPeople who rate debates for a living gave both of them an F.
Trump SQUASHED Biden tonight. ... like a fukkin' bug.
He-Haaaaaaaaaaaaa! you go, dog
If you think that's winning, then you must be one of the vast ocean of people conned by Donald Trump.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidHe’s old and doddery and should step aside, but he doesn’t come across as a liar like Trump does.
It was embarrassing watching Biden do nothing but lie and sling mud at Trump. The whole world now sees what he is.
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@divegeester saidOMG....Biden has done nothing but lie since his first day as a senator:
He’s old and doddery and should step aside, but he doesn’t come across as a liar like Trump does.
Here's a partial list of the nonsense he claimed during the debate:
How can you possibly say he doesn't come across as a liar when it's what he's been famous for his entire life?
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@sonhouse said"Today's rally in North Carolina showed the old Biden "
@Zahlanzi
Obama admitted he lost his debate and I wasn't trying to compare his absolute performance to Biden. Today's rally in North Carolina showed the old Biden so there are more rally's to go and months before the election.
It ain't over till it's over.
I would not be at all surprised SCOTUS says Trump DOES have immunity and there goes the shooting match.
No. It proved he can at least read a teleprompter.
Seriously what is wrong with you people. You are acting like Biden is your king and you will stand with him until the end. How is this different than the trumpettes behaviour?
Biden is trailing behind a convicted felon and he is losing the swing states and you're acting as if an 80+ year old "will get better".
This debate had that exact purpose, to show an energic Biden who can stand up to Trump and it failed miserably. What will change from now until September when he is meant to have another debate? Will he find new energy? Will he get any better with his stance on the Palestinian genocide? Will he convince anyone he can last 2 years in office let alone 4? is your base, your "vote blue no matter who" enough to win?
We talked about Trump's ego, why don't we talk about Biden's? The audacity to think you are the saviour of America, that you alone can defeat Trump. That ego will sink the country into the ground
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@Zahlanzi saidHis performance was at noon, which demonstrates what I've said earlier about Biden suffering from the Sundowner Effect.
"Today's rally in North Carolina showed the old Biden "
No. It proved he can at least read a teleprompter.
People suffering from senile dementia can be OK during the day but at night when they get tired, they suddenly become befuddled.
It was foolish of the to let the debate start at 9PM. Biden's blank stare and open gaping mouth was embarrassing,
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@Zahlanzi said☝️
"Today's rally in North Carolina showed the old Biden "
No. It proved he can at least read a teleprompter.
Seriously what is wrong with you people. You are acting like Biden is your king and you will stand with him until the end. How is this different than the trumpettes behaviour?
Biden is trailing behind a convicted felon and he is losing the swing states and you'r ...[text shortened]... saviour of America, that you alone can defeat Trump. That ego will sink the country into the ground
Also this.
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@sonhouse saidCould you expound on the nature of future presidencies when one would fear presiding and making decisions, scared that after their tenure, they could be prosecuted for decisions having been made while in office?
@Zahlanzi
Obama admitted he lost his debate and I wasn't trying to compare his absolute performance to Biden. Today's rally in North Carolina showed the old Biden so there are more rally's to go and months before the election.
It ain't over till it's over.
I would not be at all surprised SCOTUS says Trump DOES have immunity and there goes the shooting match.
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@Zahlanzi saidBoring, Zhalanzi. OK, people read teleprompters. When you are in office one day, you will use a teleprompter. I think Biden uses one. Geez. Really boring.;
No. It proved he can at least read a teleprompter.
Biden is trailing behind a convicted felon
Next, you like to refer to the 'felon'. Intellects in this country know what is going on. The prosecutors visited the WH, Biden and the DOJ have fingerprints all over this process, ,of turning an expired misdemeanor into a federal felony, where DA Bragg has no jurisdiction. Trump is, actually, not a felon. It will take a few appeals to clean up your slimy liberal mess. Is there any precedence of any other person being prosecuted as was Trump? No, so can you tell us why he was?
Can you write one meaningful post of interest.?
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@sonhouse saidI am totally okay with you believing that.
@Zahlanzi
Obama admitted he lost his debate and I wasn't trying to compare his absolute performance to Biden. Today's rally in North Carolina showed the old Biden so there are more rally's to go and months before the election.
It ain't over till it's over.
I would not be at all surprised SCOTUS says Trump DOES have immunity and there goes the shooting match.
https://modernity.news/2024/06/28/watch-biden-barely-able-to-get-down-off-debate-stage-has-to-be-led-away-by-his-wife/
Keep fooling yourself and you will get 4 more years of Trump.
If you are smart you will back Kennedy if Biden will not drop out.
Admit it, you secretly wish he would drop out.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidstay away from me you freak. this is between me and democrats picking a better candidate to defeat your criminal and would be dictator.
His performance was at noon, which demonstrates what I've said earlier about Biden suffering from the Sundowner Effect.
People suffering from senile dementia can be OK during the day but at night when they get tired, they suddenly become befuddled.
It was foolish of the to let the debate start at 9PM. Biden's blank stare and open gaping mouth was embarrassing,
if i were an american i would vote for biden over trump. I myself would stay in line for hours even if biden is a decrepit old man and a genocide enabler because trump is that and worse. what, you think it impresses me Trump shows his mental decline by rapid firing nonsense after lie after nonsense instead of stopping to think what the fuk he should say next?
Trump is worse than Biden in every possible way, i am just worried there will be too many dumb Americans to not see it