@bunnyknight saidI'm sure there are. Name some.
You may find this uncomfortable, but there are powerful people that deserve prison far more than Trump, yet they will never see a day in court and will retire rich in addition to collecting massive pensions.
And I don't find this uncomfortable.
@sonhouse saidI looked up 'destroying a system', but could not find it under "Crimes". Can you be more specific?
@mghrn55
I don't know of a bigger crime than destroying our system of government, I think that puts Trump on the top of the list of world class criminals.
You are getting tiresome. Rage destroys, Sonhouse.
@AverageJoe1
If a president lies to the citizens, is that a lie, since we rely thereon to our detriment??
Like, he just said that the borders are closed, which they are not.
He said the $3.5T will cost ZERO. That is of course a lie, and we would all suffer if we relied on that lie to our detriment.
OH, if Trump told these 2 lies, would that be cool with you?
You are about to exhibit your tiresomeness......I just hate it.
@AverageJoe1
In other words, NEVER actually enter a debate, just deflect since that is the lazy way out.
All in all, I find you arrogant and smug. It does not fit well on you.
@sonhouse said?
@AverageJoe1
In other words, NEVER actually enter a debate, just deflect since that is the lazy way out.
All in all, I find you arrogant and smug. It does not fit well on you.
@averagejoe1 saidFrom what I gather (as a non-American) is that a good chunk of the $3.5T has already been spent, some by the previous administration.
@AverageJoe1
If a president lies to the citizens, is that a lie, since we rely thereon to our detriment??
Like, he just said that the borders are closed, which they are not.
He said the $3.5T will cost ZERO. That is of course a lie, and we would all suffer if we relied on that lie to our detriment.
OH, if Trump told these 2 lies, would that be cool with you?
You are about to exhibit your tiresomeness......I just hate it.
And a good chunk of the remainder will be spent in future anyways. You know, things like fixing roads, bridges, schools, etc .....
The remaining battle is over budgeting for what what is deemed important in future.
I guess one of the big tickets is climate change.
The opposition to allocating $$ on this goes something like this.
Climate change is a hoax. Therefore spending $$ on it is Socialism.
The pandemic is a hoax. Therefore spending $$ on it is Socialism.
And so forth and so forth.
I guess the debate will go on.
Between the earthy conservative folks and the non-earthy liberal citizens.
@averagejoe1 saidOh, and in a separate post ......
@AverageJoe1
If a president lies to the citizens, is that a lie, since we rely thereon to our detriment??
Like, he just said that the borders are closed, which they are not.
He said the $3.5T will cost ZERO. That is of course a lie, and we would all suffer if we relied on that lie to our detriment.
OH, if Trump told these 2 lies, would that be cool with you?
You are about to exhibit your tiresomeness......I just hate it.
You really shouldn't talk about a president lying to the citizens.
You're only going to get a pie in the face, considering your undying worship of a previous president who lied like it was a bodily function. 😛
@mghrn55 saidWe don't know if climate change is a hoax, to the extent that it is blamed on humans.
From what I gather (as a non-American) is that a good chunk of the $3.5T has already been spent, some by the previous administration.
And a good chunk of the remainder will be spent in future anyways. You know, things like fixing roads, bridges, schools, etc .....
The remaining battle is over budgeting for what what is deemed important in future.
I guess one of the big tic ...[text shortened]... s the debate will go on.
Between the earthy conservative folks and the non-earthy liberal citizens.
However, we do know that the pandemic is real, not a hoax.
@mghrn55 saidSettle. I said O, Clinton, Trump all lied. We're cool.
Oh, and in a separate post ......
You really shouldn't talk about a president lying to the citizens.
You're only going to get a pie in the face, considering your undying worship of a previous president who lied like it was a bodily function. 😛
But you go off on me for some reason when I casually point out a few FACTS that Biden lied. This week? Said border is closed, said agents 'strapped' Haitians, said $3.5T (which is really $5.5) will cost zero. Like when you buy a cup of coffee, it costs zero??
Last month he said no Americans would be left behind in Afghan.
So, just to keep the Forum caustic, I thought I would point that out. Please dont shoot the messenger AvJoe.
Coming Soon! The Durham Report has just started, with his first report on that lawyer. Even Hillary will prob get a summons!!
@AverageJoe1
So you figure we should NEVER try to go into the 21st century with the idea of improving the lives of ordinary folks, get child care paid for, what TERRIBLE idea, right?
Of course you know SO much about the human condition you have thought all of that through and concluded that common folk don't DESERVE to have things better in their lives.
First 2 years of community college free? Come on, don't we have better things to do than give those beer guzzling idiots a free associates degree?
That is pretty much your argument, right?
@sonhouse saidSonhouse,PLEASE be an interesting debater, you are so close. You don't even have to introduce humor as I try to do.
@AverageJoe1
So you figure we should NEVER try to go into the 21st century with the idea of improving the lives of ordinary folks, get child care paid for, what TERRIBLE idea, right?
Of course you know SO much about the human condition you have thought all of that through and concluded that common folk don't DESERVE to have things better in their lives.
First 2 years o ...[text shortened]... ve those beer guzzling idiots a free associates degree?
That is pretty much your argument, right?
Here, I wrote a note to which you responded, it was about all presidents lied, and Biden has JUST told 4 whoppers.
You responded about 21st century, child care, the human condition and common folk. You responded, as other debaters might say, off-the-wall. They all just said.."Huh?"
It is OK if you ignore my post, just please don't write like you are on some other thread. On the other thread you say Trump committed crime by destroying the government,. WE say Biden is Destroying our currency. Why dont you write about that??
Note that you write boringly about what 'Trump Did (yawn) " while we write about 'today's' Biden from Hell. Which is more important?
@averagejoe1 saidHoly crap. Enough with the Durham Report.
Settle. I said O, Clinton, Trump all lied. We're cool.
But you go off on me for some reason when I casually point out a few FACTS that Biden lied. This week? Said border is closed, said agents 'strapped' Haitians, said $3.5T (which is really $5.5) will cost zero. Like when you buy a cup of coffee, it costs zero??
Last month he said no Americans would be left b ...[text shortened]... eport has just started, with his first report on that lawyer. Even Hillary will prob get a summons!!
You put your money on THE slowest horse in the race.