30 Jul 06
Originally posted by Derfel CadarnThat's because you only see what you want to see or lie about what you see, in much the same way that Bush operates.
You do the same thing. I haven't seen one of your posts yet that aren't blaming America for something. Get your panties out of your ass and stop pointing fingers.
For example, see my threads "Peace" and "Paying politicians for peace".
30 Jul 06
Originally posted by General PutzerAre you, on the other hand, implying that the terrorist attack you mention was an action rather than a reaction?
What exactly are you implying? Are you trying to claim that an attack by 19 terrorists against a target with nothing but 3000+ civilians in it and meant only to kill non-combatant men, women, and children is comparable to American military operations against an armed force of douchebags?
30 Jul 06
Originally posted by Sambo69Sambo your a bit hard on the americans old son, we will need them one day.
That's because you only see what you want to see or lie about what you see, in much the same way that Bush operates.
For example, see my threads "Peace" and "Paying politicians for peace".
30 Jul 06
Originally posted by General PutzerWell, simply put: the blatant hypocrisy.
Please enlighten us sambo, how exactly is America being two-faced? We got pissed off about 911 and went on a killing spree, what's two faced about that?
It is alright for the US (and Britain) to kill civilians (and carpet bombing cities is knowingly killing civilians, as is vetoing aid to help cancerous children in Iraq), but it's not alright for US civilians to perish as collatoral damage.
30 Jul 06
Originally posted by shavixmirWell, unlike the attackers on 9/11, America isn't aiming to kill innocents.
Well, simply put: the blatant hypocrisy.
It is alright for the US (and Britain) to kill civilians (and carpet bombing cities is knowingly killing civilians, as is vetoing aid to help cancerous children in Iraq), but it's not alright for US civilians to perish as collatoral damage.
30 Jul 06
Originally posted by Derfel CadarnBut surely they must have known that innocent civilians would die with their shock and awe campaign.If they just wanted to oust sadaam they could have done it in another way.
Ok, I don't know what kind of twisted perception you have, but America didn't invade Iraq with the intentions of innocents dying.
Yes civilians will die in wars but the way America hit Iraq meant that many innocent people ,who were already victimised and mistreated by Sadaam would die.
30 Jul 06
Originally posted by boarmanAnd what way would that be? Go knocking on cave doors, asking if Saddam would like to surrender?
But surely they must have known that innocent civilians would die with their shock and awe campaign.If they just wanted to oust sadaam they could have done it in another way.
Yes civilians will die in wars but the way America hit Iraq meant that many innocent people ,who were already victimised and mistreated by Sadaam would die.
30 Jul 06
Originally posted by Derfel CadarnI think that you have Sadaam and Osama mixed up.Osama lives in a cave ,remember.
And what way would that be? Go knocking on cave doors, asking if Saddam would like to surrender?
The Americans could have got an agent into Iraq(they already had some remember)and organised to assasinate Sadaam.This war was not about overthrowing Sadaam but ,it just worked out as a good excuse.Remember it wasn't about WMD either as there still hasn't been any found.Certainly if he had them they would have been used when he had realised there was no escape.
The war was about one thing and one thing only and we all know what that was, don't we? The good ol black stuff in the ground.
30 Jul 06
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Originally posted by boarmanAssassinate him? That's a cowards way out of it. And besides, Americans in the Middle East have been getting beheaded since 1979, so an American walking aorund over there probably wouldn't have had that good of a chance of staying long.
I think that you have Sadaam and Osama mixed up.Osama lives in a cave ,remember.
The Americans could have got an agent into Iraq(they already had some remember)and organised to assasinate Sadaam.This war was not about overthrowing Sadaam but ,it just worked out as a good excuse.Remember it wasn't about WMD either as there still hasn't been any found.Certain ...[text shortened]... ne thing only and we all know what that was, don't we? The good ol black stuff in the ground.
And while I don't think oil was the only part of this war, I do agree that it was one, though not as big as people think. I saw a graph the other day that suggests America gets most of its oil from Canada, but we don't declare war on them.
I do think that a small part of us going into Iraq was genuine concern for the state of things over there.
30 Jul 06
Originally posted by Derfel CadarnSadaam was a coward so it would have been a fitting way for him.The agents over there are well trained and coming across as an American would not have happened.They blend in and speak the dialect so it could have worked.Remember it was on intelligence reports that led to the missile strikes that nearly got Sadaam in the early part of the war.He only escaped in the nick of time.
Assassinate him? That's a cowards way out of it. And besides, Americans in the Middle East have been getting beheaded since 1979, so an American walking aorund over there probably wouldn't have had that good of a chance of staying long.
And while I don't think oil was the only part of this war, I do agree that it was one, though not as big as people ...[text shortened]... t a small part of us going into Iraq was genuine concern for the state of things over there.
30 Jul 06
Originally posted by boarmanI think people who have lived in the Middle East their entire lives know the difference between another Middle Eastern person, and a person from America. Nearly, nearly, nearly.
Sadaam was a coward so it would have been a fitting way for him.The agents over there are well trained and coming across as an American would not have happened.They blend in and speak the dialect so it could have worked.Remember it was on intelligence reports that led to the missile strikes that nearly got Sadaam in the early part of the war.He only escaped in the nick of time.
As much as people hate to admit it, America's presence in Iraq has rid the world of some very evil people.