15 Jun 09
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Originally posted by sh76He could try to get the palestinians to be in a bad position, it wouldn't be the first time.
If by "take advantage of" you mean "start negotiations" and by "perceived weakness in Obama" you mean "act in what he perceives as the best interests of his county," then I'm sure the answer is yes.
15 Jun 09
Originally posted by zeeblebotMy point was that in negotiations, you take whatever position you think will help your cause. Taking advantage of Obama's weakness is a loaded phrase that sounds sinister and underhanded.
that doesn't quite pan out. just because the two statements could both be true does not mean they are identical.
15 Jun 09
Originally posted by sh76you take whatever position you think will help your cause.
My point was that in negotiations, you take whatever position you think will help your cause. Taking advantage of Obama's weakness is a loaded phrase that sounds sinister and underhanded.
as well as take any position that will damage the other guy's cause.
15 Jun 09
Originally posted by sh76nobody could blame him for taking advantage. if his hands get burned, it's his own fault. but we can blame obama, because we employ him.
My point was that in negotiations, you take whatever position you think will help your cause. Taking advantage of Obama's weakness is a loaded phrase that sounds sinister and underhanded.
16 Jun 09
Originally posted by scherzoOkay; great. He's dead. But, I'll be expecting my rent checks in the mail as administrator of his estate.
I support the right of your grandfather (I'm assuming he's Jewish, Communist, or homosexual) to return home.
Now let's work on the Spanish giving back the lands to the Jews expelled during the Inquisition.
Then, maybe we can work on giving the Native Americans back New York City.
Maybe Australia can give the country back to the aborigines
Canada to the eskimos
East Prussia to the Germans
Upper Harlem back to the whites who moved out in the 1930s due to increased crime
Lower Harlem back to the blacks who were forced out by increased pricing because of re-gentrification and Columbia University students.
The guy who I sold my house to should give me back my house because I was "forced" out by changes to the neighborhood
France back to the French
Africa back to the cavemen from the Geico commercials since that's who inhabited the continent originally.
I'm sure I'm missing a few, but let's get started cleaning up this mess!
16 Jun 09
Originally posted by sh76Okay; great. He's dead. But, I'll be expecting my rent checks in the mail as administrator of his estate.
Okay; great. He's dead. But, I'll be expecting my rent checks in the mail as administrator of his estate.
Now let's work on the Spanish giving back the lands to the Jews expelled during the Inquisition.
Then, maybe we can work on giving the Native Americans back New York City.
Maybe Australia can give the country back to the aborigines
Canada to th ...[text shortened]... originally.
I'm sure I'm missing a few, but let's get started cleaning up this mess!
Palestinians aren't in charge of Germany, unfortunately. Can't help you there, though I do want to.
Now let's work on the Spanish giving back the lands to the Jews expelled during the Inquisition.
Spain belongs to the Spanish. Unless we're talking about the Basque or Catalonia.
Then, maybe we can work on giving the Native Americans back New York City.
Ideologically a good thing, although it's been too long.
Maybe Australia can give the country back to the aborigines
Great.
Canada to the eskimos
See my comment about NYC.
East Prussia to the Germans
OK.
Upper Harlem back to the whites who moved out in the 1930s due to increased crime
God, you're racist.
Lower Harlem back to the blacks who were forced out by increased pricing because of re-gentrification and Columbia University students.
Oh, never mind.
The guy who I sold my house to should give me back my house because I was "forced" out by changes to the neighborhood
Neg the previous comment.
France back to the French
France is unworthy of the French occupation.
Africa back to the cavemen from the Geico commercials since that's who inhabited the continent originally.
Yeah, except none of those exist anymore.
16 Jun 09
Originally posted by sh76The continued, stubborn refusal to admit that the creation of a Zionist state foisted on the majority of Palestinian people was a wrong that needs to be compensated for remains an impediment to the settlement of the problem.
Okay; great. He's dead. But, I'll be expecting my rent checks in the mail as administrator of his estate.
Now let's work on the Spanish giving back the lands to the Jews expelled during the Inquisition.
Then, maybe we can work on giving the Native Americans back New York City.
Maybe Australia can give the country back to the aborigines
Canada to th ...[text shortened]... originally.
I'm sure I'm missing a few, but let's get started cleaning up this mess!
Your post is disingenuous or willfully ignorant.
16 Jun 09
Originally posted by no1marauderMy post was mostly an attempt to be funny.
The continued, stubborn refusal to admit that the creation of a Zionist state foisted on the majority of Palestinian people was a wrong that needs to be compensated for remains an impediment to the settlement of the problem.
Your post is disingenuous or willfully ignorant.
Incidentally, my moving out of the neighborhood had absolutely nothing to do with race. The neighborhood changed from primarily whites to primarily different whites.
Compensation? Fine. I agree to that. Let's figure out what's fair and make it part of an over-all settlement. Giving every Palestinian back the house his grandfather had in 1946? Impractical and at odds with what's always been done in these sorts of situations.
